O/T:- Ukraine [Incorporating 'Congrats to Russia' thread]

[andy6025]

Criminals. Put your reading glasses on maybe.

Nope, I don’t support war criminals or war crimes.

This is just straight up false. What was the entire northern campaign for? Why did they attack Mykolaiva? Why occupy snake island or bomb Lviv?

And his public declarations? Yikes. You would have trouble finding ten of these relating to his illegal war of aggression that haven't turned out to be blatant lies. You can't seriously expect me to believe you're gullible enough to believe the man's words.

Since neither of us have had access to the Russian plans the best we can do is listen to various analysts and use logic to determine what theories are most likely to be true.

That which I think most likely to be true is that Russia’s northern campaign served two purposes: first, present a big enough threat to Kiev in order to pin down Ukrainian reserves and prevent them from reinforcing the nationalist battalions in Donbas and southern Ukraine. Second, force Zalensky to the negotiating table. Both of these seemed to work. Turkey, who brokered the negotiations, confirmed that the two parties were close to a deal if not about to put pend to paper, and that they satisfied most of Russia’s key objectives.

I think they attack Mykolaiv because it’s en route to Odessa. The Russian people regard Odessa as Russian and will extremely disappointed in Putin if he doesn’t acquire it, especially after all of those people were burned alive by Nazi Ukrainians in that massacre in 2014.