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    Quote Originally Posted by OP67 View Post
    So what do you think should be done about it??? Pretty much shows that throwing endless cash at it isn't going to sort it out. The NHS is no longer and hasn't been for a long long time been sustainable in it's current format.

    Labour just use it for political points scoring while offering zero ideas!!
    I'm not convinced either of the two major parties have the bottle to implement the scale of reform needed. They're both hopelessly compromised, albeit in different ways.

    There are private and public sector interests using the sheer size of the NHS to milk the organisation for their own benefit, relatively unchallenged. Probably the only way to prevent/manage that - and it would take a lot of time, persistence and incredible political will and resilience - is by breaking the NHS down into much smaller and more manageable units.

    It's a brave politician or party that even suggests trying to do so because, when the vested private/public sector interests sense that their 'jam today' meal ticket is being threatened, they are usually very successful in mobilising public opinion to 'Defend the NHS', and the public are generally gullible enough to buy that narrative, so the would-be radical reformers (if they even dare to raise their heads in the first place) tend to water down or back away from doing anything radical enough to make the NHS the truly great entity it could be.

    If the NHS carries on more or less in its current form - which is likely in view of the above stalemate - then it will eventually collapse regardless of which political party is in control or what they're spending on it. In that scenario, everyone loses eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackal2 View Post
    I'm not convinced either of the two major parties have the bottle to implement the scale of reform needed. They're both hopelessly compromised, albeit in different ways.

    There are private and public sector interests using the sheer size of the NHS to milk the organisation for their own benefit, relatively unchallenged. Probably the only way to prevent/manage that - and it would take a lot of time, persistence and incredible political will and resilience - is by breaking the NHS down into much smaller and more manageable units.

    It's a brave politician or party that even suggests trying to do so because, when the vested private/public sector interests sense that their 'jam today' meal ticket is being threatened, they are usually very successful in mobilising public opinion to 'Defend the NHS', and the public are generally gullible enough to buy that narrative, so the would-be radical reformers (if they even dare to raise their heads in the first place) tend to water down or back away from doing anything radical enough to make the NHS the truly great entity it could be.

    If the NHS carries on more or less in its current form - which is likely in view of the above stalemate - then it will eventually collapse regardless of which political party is in control or what they're spending on it. In that scenario, everyone loses eventually.
    Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackal2 View Post
    I'm not convinced either of the two major parties have the bottle to implement the scale of reform needed.
    I'm not convinced either, but we do know this.

    One party might fail.
    One party has failed.

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