Which would you choose?

[Andy_Faber]

Promotion

The cup would be lovely but I want to be playing Man U and Liverpool in two years time not Cheltenham and Accrington

[swaledale]

Promotion

The cup would be lovely but I want to be playing Man U and Liverpool in two years time not Cheltenham and Accrington

So you would trade winning the FA Cup for the remote possibility of being beaten soundly by the rich teams in the prem? On a rational basis, the latter could happen anyway in 3 years, so your only delaying the experience playing in the prem by 12 months in return for an experience of actually winning a trophy!

[Andy_Faber]

So you would trade winning the FA Cup for the remote possibility of being beaten soundly by the rich teams in the prem? On a rational basis, the latter could happen anyway in 3 years, so you’re only delaying the experience playing in the prem by 12 months in return for an experience of actually winning a trophy!

On that same rational basis the former (FA cup win) could happen next year so it’s a nil outcome

[swaledale]

On that same rational basis the former (FA cup win) could happen next year so it’s a nil outcome

Ah but for the fact that guaranteed promotion gets us in the championship and I've watched Derby for years there, we might get promoted within a year again but its a probable. Plus we are more than likely to achieve that anyway within a short timescale.

A guaranteed FA Cup win is an actual trophy to saviour, which is very unlikely to happen in reality. So its hardly a nil outcome, as promotion is a definite possibility within the next couple of years, FA Cup win extremely unlikely.

[Andy_Faber]

Ah but for the fact that guaranteed promotion gets us in the championship and I've watched Derby for years there, we might get promoted within a year again but its a probable. Plus we are more than likely to achieve that anyway within a short timescale.

A guaranteed FA Cup win is an actual trophy to saviour, which is very unlikely to happen in reality. So its hardly a nil outcome, as promotion is a definite possibility within the next couple of years, FA Cup win extremely unlikely.

We’ll have to agree to disagree, or at least I will

[swaledale]

On that same rational basis the former (FA cup win) could happen next year so it’s a nil outcome

One can agree to disagree about what you would prefer, fair enough, but your statement here is still not true!

[Andy_Faber]

One can agree to disagree about what you would prefer, fair enough, but your statement here is still not true!

Don't start on a football thread Swale

[swaledale]

Don't start on a football thread Swale

I'm not starting anything, just pointing out that your statement is wrong under the premise of the thread, which is that either promotion or FA Cup is guaranteed.

I certainly can't see how under those circumstances its a zero sum - Derby's chances of promotion are much greater than winning the FA Cup under normal circumstances, I mean one only has to consider how many times Derby have been promoted or been in play off finals in recent decades as against the number of cup finals they have been in.

If you can't substantiate a statement you post and consider it "to be starting something" when I point out the obvious error, then I'm really not sure why your posting on this forum.

[Andy_Faber]

I'm not starting anything, just pointing out that your statement is wrong under the premise of the thread, which is that either promotion or FA Cup is guaranteed.

I certainly can't see how under those circumstances its a zero sum - Derby's chances of promotion are much greater than winning the FA Cup under normal circumstances, I mean one only has to consider how many times Derby have been promoted or been in play off finals in recent decades as against the number of cup finals they have been in.

If you can't substantiate a statement you post and consider it "to be starting something" when I point out the obvious error, then I'm really not sure why your posting on this forum.

You aren't worth the effort Swale, its been refreshing around here without all the name calling and swearing and I don't want to set you off again