Which would you choose?

[Geoff Parkstone]

I suspect aspirations and preferences evolve over time, For example a Celtic fan, who for many successive years won domestic titles and cups, especially when Rangers were indisposed, might yearn for success in Europe above all else simply because domestic success has become the norm and so been downgraded.

Possibly the same for Citeh fans who may be getting bored with winning the PL (although sometimes there are challenges) and would rather win the Champions League in order to lay that one finally to rest.

For Stevenage, the off FA Cup giantkilling might be nice, even promotion to the 3rd divisiion, but there biggest wish might be to win the Papa John and play at Wembley

[swaledale]

I suspect aspirations and preferences evolve over time, For example a Celtic fan, who for many successive years won domestic titles and cups, especially when Rangers were indisposed, might yearn for success in Europe above all else simply because domestic success has become the norm and so been downgraded.

Possibly the same for Citeh fans who may be getting bored with winning the PL (although sometimes there are challenges) and would rather win the Champions League in order to lay that one finally to rest.

For Stevenage, the off FA Cup giantkilling might be nice, even promotion to the 3rd divisiion, but there biggest wish might be to win the Papa John and play at Wembley

On that night at Villa Park I suspect they all wished they could be there to experience it. Those sort of occasions live long in memory and the history books. Promotions come and go, even though a pragmatic view would be that a promotion is better for a club in the long run.

[ramAnag]

I suspect aspirations and preferences evolve over time, For example a Celtic fan, who for many successive years won domestic titles and cups, especially when Rangers were indisposed, might yearn for success in Europe above all else simply because domestic success has become the norm and so been downgraded.

Possibly the same for Citeh fans who may be getting bored with winning the PL (although sometimes there are challenges) and would rather win the Champions League in order to lay that one finally to rest.

For Stevenage, the off FA Cup giantkilling might be nice, even promotion to the 3rd divisiion, but there biggest wish might be to win the Papa John and play at Wembley

Good points there, GP.

Winning the Scottish title must have become almost routinely boring for Celtic and they must crave European success although it seems much further away than it was over half a century ago in 1967.

With City I think it’s slightly different. There’s essentially an elite band of three clubs - Liverpool, Chelsea and United - who have had repeated European success along with Forest and Villa who’s achievements should never be underestimated. I think, to take the next step, City and - to perhaps a lesser extent - Arsenal must really feel the absence of the ‘top’ trophy from their collection hence it becomes a priority.

Not sure about how you’d feel as a Stevenage fan. For me the Papa John trophy is nothing but a nuisance. I didn’t go to any of the matches and I wouldn’t have bothered to go to Wembley if we’d got there. I appreciate clubs the size of Stevenage have a different perspective, but I don’t imagine attendance at a third full Wembley for the final of the ‘also rans reserves’ competition that no one really cares about would have begun to compare - in the ‘I was there’ category - with those final five minutes at Villa Park last weekend.