Careless Tories!

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you seem to have missed the jist of what I am saying RA.

This current Tory party, is far removed from what you could call a Tory party.

Taxes are higher than they've been for 28 years. Forget where they have spent money, spend they have.
Since 2010, they have doubled the national debt.
Tories are supposed to be about growth and business. This lot are scared to embrce it.
They are scared to follow through the freedoms of Brexit. They are scared to control our borders and stop the money drain of leeches flooding in.

Everything they currently do, I would expect a Labour government to be bang in the middle of, as they have in the past.
So I'll say again, you won't get a fag paper between them on current actions.
they are NOT THE CONSERVATIVES OF OLD. They have wasted money all over the place. The individuals have been found out for corruption.
No one ever expects a Tory government to be this stupid. They are usually very regimental in their actions. Now I'm not defending that, but you always knew what to expect.

NB,
An uncorrupt police force? I remember mentioning this over a year ago, and you said you didn't believe the police were corrupt and where was my evidence? You have obviously changed your mind. Has something happened?


But like I said, I want the system ripped apart.
Politicians think that once they are in power, they can do what they want. That includes Labour as well as the Tories, your beloved Blair proved that.
They get away with murder, until the heat gets too much and it is their piers who force them out, in protection of their own positions.

Don’t think I’ve missed your ‘jist’, Tricky.

Point by point...everything we’re talking about revolves around the CURRENT Tory Party. That’s what matters...the Tory Party that has been in power for approaching 13 years and the same Tory Party that is responsible for the Brexit shambles. Whatever they once were has nothing to do with the UK in 2023.

Not sure how far you want to go back to your ‘CONSERVATIVES OF OLD’...Douglas-Home, Ted Heath, or maybe 1979 and the advent of Thatcherism? That too, as I remember, ended in tears too with Labour’s 1997 landslide victory followed by 13 years of Labour government.

You can try and disguise them however you like but today’s Conservatives are the Tory Party that we are concerned with in this thread.

To say Labour would embrace the same policies is just senseless. Were nurses, doctors, teachers, ambulance drivers etc (even bloody Ofsted this week!) on strike under Labour?

I don’t recall commenting on the police force before but you may be right and I’ll admit I’ve been shocked by some of, to me, the ‘recent’ revelations about the Met.

To be clear, ‘my beloved Blair’ isn’t actually fair. I fully accept that later in his career, when in cahoots with Bush, he was appallingly lacking in terms of integrity and dishonesty. In that respect he was deeply flawed, but what I also remember is that in 1997 he provided the light at the end of the Thatcherite ‘tunnel’. I cannot at any stage of my life time remember any other PM making such a positive difference than that brought about by that first Blair and Brown administration.