Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
I don't disagree, but that is my very point.
The current Tory party are as far removed from Torys as you can get.
They would barely be regarded as central at the moment. There is no control/discipline/ decisivness about any of them.

As for your strikers. Oh please, striking is synonymous under Labour control. The Unions of today, have lost their clout, that they had with heavy industry. So they have shifted their gaze to the civil services and public services.
Yes the Tory party is responsible for the Brexit shambles. By sabotaging it from within, instead of driving it the way it supposed to go.
But that is an electoral topic , obe for which they will pay for. The voters who pushed that, won't be jumping into Labours camp either. Flip Flop isn't the man to follow it through either.
No they’re not...they’re the epitome of all that is wrong with the old fashioned ‘landed gentry’ version of Conservatism where they are gradually creating a scenario where the workers have to go ‘cap in hand’ to their ‘masters’.

All you’re objecting to is the lack of tax cutting policies, but when society’s essential workers begin to react in the way they are there is something very seriously wrong. These are not workers with a reputation for taking strike action.

Striking is ‘synonymous with Labour’...I’d have another look at the last fifty years if I were you...and again we’re not talking about the past...we’re talking about the here and now. Labour haven’t been in power since 2010...stop trying to shift the blame.

Brexit and the next GE? We’ll see...but if the referendum were to be held again (I know it won’t be) do you honestly think you’d win?
Not a snowball’s...a good proportion of those who swallowed the lies have either died or recognised the giant con that was Brexit.

Assuming you’re referring to Starmer as ‘flip flop’. No idea why. To me he seems a decent man. I don’t agree with everything he says but I’ll forgive his relative lack of ‘personality’ if it means we have someone with some intelligence and integrity running the country. Fed up of personality politics...Johnson and Farage are both allegedly ‘charismatic’. For me...whoever thinks that is confusing ‘charisma’ with ‘charlatan’.