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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    It depends what you mean by benefits.

    Bus passes.....benefit?
    Heating allowance.....benefit?
    Disabled badge free parking....benefit?

    Some would say none of these are benefits but I reckon they are.

    Do all kids oaps and disabled folk need free travel......I'd suggest not

    Do all oaps need the heating allowance......a fair number do, a big percentage don't.

    Do disabled folk need free parking as well as priority parking......I'd suggest no.

    When folk talk about benefits they are mainly talking about JSA and universal credit.

    I'd suggest methadone was a benefit......most people would suggest it's health care.

    Their is a culture in Scotland of state dependency ( well sucking at the teet of the state) but that seems to have spread to the rest of the UK as well.

    I think those on zero benefits are now in the vast minority ( I'm not one of them ) and I just don't think this is sustainable in the long term without taxing the working more and more.

    Real unpalatable things like wealth taxes or OAPs paying NICs or more severe inheritance tax.

    I like the philosophy of keeping more of you're own hard earned rather than giving more away and getting a portion back.

    To be fair I think the idea of helping those with young children is good but I also think it breeds fecklessness.

    Read something in the paper at the weekend that 25% of under 25s will inherit more than theyl earn in their lifetime......an absolutely jaw dropping stat for me.
    Less ‘poor’ pensioners today than when I was growing up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    Less ‘poor’ pensioners today than when I was growing up.
    There are still plenty of poor pensioners some of whom have a small superannuation which prevents them from claiming benefits which puts them in the poverty trap.
    The Green Party in Scotland are anti business and pro the work shy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    There are still plenty of poor pensioners some of whom have a small superannuation which prevents them from claiming benefits which puts them in the poverty trap.
    The Green Party in Scotland are anti business and pro the work shy.
    The idea of the poor pensioner is well in the past. Pensioners are generally better off than young people with families and many young people without families.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    There are still plenty of poor pensioners some of whom have a small superannuation which prevents them from claiming benefits which puts them in the poverty trap.
    The Green Party in Scotland are anti business and pro the work shy.
    Poverty nowadays is having to cancel Sky Movies.

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