OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[Geoff Parkstone]

So the benefit is making you think, which for us over 60s is good for our mental health, like doing a Sudoku. There you go, a Brexit positive for the pensioners - probably why they all voted for it

[SithHappens]

To be fair I was in a villa overseas that had no WiFi when the results of the referendum were announced, at the time my roaming data was a detriment. Would have been happier not having to read that.

[Andy_Faber]

Yes there are ways round it, but its another irritating side effect of Brexit! Many mobile providers stopped free EU roaming as soon as they could. Its a definite negative and when it gets to the point of saying either its no worse than before Brexit or there is a work around, that is hardly a Brexit beenfit is it?

No it’s not but since June 16 my opinion is Brexits happened get over it/make the best of it. No-one still posting here (apart from TTR) voted to leave, and it’s since become an attitude of mind with some shrugging their shoulders and getting on with life, and others less willing to do so.

[swaledale]

No it’s not but since June 16 my opinion is Brexits happened get over it/make the best of it. No-one still posting here (apart from TTR) voted to leave, and it’s since become an attitude of mind with some shrugging their shoulders and getting on with life, and others less willing to do so.

Fair enough thats your opinion, but actually the tide is turning and when one can see how its negatively impacting the country, then shrugging ones shoulders doesn't really cut it!

The fact of the matter is, the liars and those that pushed for Brexit are hoping everyone will do just that, forget about the lies, the false promises and the fact that "project fear" turned out to be project correct forecast!

Its important IMO and those of others to continue to call out the issues and show how Brexit has ****ed the country up. Eventually there will be a move to rejoin the common market, in the mean time I remain open to those Brexit benefits we were all told would come along.

I find it odd, that people talk about moving on, yet history is there to be learnt from and when liars and cheats con people, its important to make sure that the facts are available.

Brexit of course is still impacting us now, it hasn't been done, as the continued dispute over the NI protocol shows or the fact that as yet checks on goods imported into the EU haven't been implemented, because the government knows that would result in cost increases. The dismantling of regulations connected with the EU ahve yet to be enacted, this needs watching, because the *******s will try and remove many rights which people have enoyed.

Last but not least the threat to remove the jurisdiction of the ECHR remains, one that needs watching carefully. Too many people just don't understand that freedoms and rights are being eroded.

Other than that its enjoyable to to be proven right about the **** show which was Brexit, just sad that so many were conned into believing it.

[ramAnag]

No it’s not but since June 16 my opinion is Brexits happened get over it/make the best of it. No-one still posting here (apart from TTR) voted to leave, and it’s since become an attitude of mind with some shrugging their shoulders and getting on with life, and others less willing to do so.

This is what I really, really can’t understand, AF. Our country has been misled and shafted by the likes of Farage, Johnson and the money men behind them.
I know it and you know it. If you bought a house...a car...or pretty much anything of consequence and later discovered you’d been conned I’m fairly sure you’d seek recompense.
Under what other circumstances would you, knowing what’s happened...knowing that you’ve been lied to...recommend simply ‘shrugging your shoulders’ and just ‘making the best of it’?

[swaledale]

Its basically why the UK public gets shafted and does **** all about it, or tut tut under their breath about protesters and our retirement age is now 67, with barely a whimper. Whereas the French will be rioting and their retirement age is 62 if one has paid all contributions!

Brexit hasn't been done, its a **** up ad hence why this thread keeps rumbling along and there is more more much more to come, watch the Tories rip themselves apart over the renegotiation of the NI protocol!!

[MadAmster]

When driving you can pre download maps and access them offline..... no data usage.

[Andy_Faber]

When driving you can pre download maps and access them offline..... no data usage.

That’s what I’ve used in Scotland a lot, also got it ready for Greece but never needed it. Also a little known law in France, any sat nav that includes speed camera warnings is illegal and subject to as much as a prison sensence

[Geoff Parkstone]

There's also a thing called a map, that comes in paper format. People have become pathetically dependent on data. Yes it's convenient but hardly essential to the leisure traveller.

[Andy_Faber]

This is what I really, really can’t understand, AF. Our country has been misled and shafted by the likes of Farage, Johnson and the money men behind them.
I know it and you know it. If you bought a house...a car...or pretty much anything of consequence and later discovered you’d been conned I’m fairly sure you’d seek recompense.
Under what other circumstances would you, knowing what’s happened...knowing that you’ve been lied to...recommend simply ‘shrugging your shoulders’ and just ‘making the best of it’?

Perhaps me and my like need some guidance - tell me what you’ve actually done other than have a whinge with a lot of old blokes. If anything, then I applaud you, if nothing, then I’m just six years ahead of you in helping to forge a new reality.

Shrugging of shoulders wasn’t the best form of words on my part, simply ‘accepted’ would do

The car and house thing dont help your argument as both are to a greater or lesser extent ‘buyer beware’ (when bought privately) and in my experience there’s ALWAYS a surprise to be found when buying a property, and I/we (you might have guessed by now) just suck it up and get it sorted, ultimately to our benefit. As I said earlier, it’s an attitude of mind