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    Quote Originally Posted by donsdaft View Post
    I've said all along that Scotland is too full of fearties to vote for independence.

    Well, Sturgeon's type of independence anyway.

    Loathed though I am to nurture hope again, perhaps we can try a different way.

    I'll vote for Kate Forbes's SNP.
    Fearties, no. More like being brought up knowing nothing more than the condescending shyte from Westminster, which made us believe we couldn't do anything for ourselves.

    The Thatcher years was probably the beginning of the modern national movement, in that more and more people began to question our relationship with Westminster during her tenure. Then the creation of the Scottish Parliament was the best thing Labour ever did for Scotland. Through that we will get independence at some point in the not too distant future. Won't be through us older folk, many of us are still ingrained in the belief that the union is best and the English parties know what is best for us and an opinion I don't have much issue with, in relation to older folk. Many people struggle to adapt with changes later in life and that is what most of the fear is, a fear of change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeeDon View Post
    Fearties, no. More like being brought up knowing nothing more than the condescending shyte from Westminster, which made us believe we couldn't do anything for ourselves.

    The Thatcher years was probably the beginning of the modern national movement, in that more and more people began to question our relationship with Westminster during her tenure. Then the creation of the Scottish Parliament was the best thing Labour ever did for Scotland. Through that we will get independence at some point in the not too distant future. Won't be through us older folk, many of us are still ingrained in the belief that the union is best and the English parties know what is best for us and an opinion I don't have much issue with, in relation to older folk. Many people struggle to adapt with changes later in life and that is what most of the fear is, a fear of change.


    That was the argument in 1974.

    Either all those old people are still there ( lots of them are) or the argument has just never been good enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donsdaft View Post
    That was the argument in 1974.
    Scotland would never have voted for Independence in 1974.

    The parliament opened in 1999, so kids schooled from that point onwards will have been brought up knowing more about our own parliament than Westminster and hence the reason I am sure will give us independence.

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    Of course I was just 15 and admittedly had a limited social circle, but I didn’t know anyone who would have voted against independence.

    I wasn’t taking Huns into account though.

    My point remains the same.
    As a youngster, I thought it was only a matter of 5 years or so.

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