Quote Originally Posted by donsdaft View Post
A very English view of the world......

An independent Scotland should be sorting that out by giving them hope, giving them opportunity, not just hand outs to keep them at the bottom.
No, I'd say the clichés you're throwing out represents a far more default English ethos.......judging by plebiscite outcomes at least.

And I wholeheartedly agree with your last paragraph, but I'm also aware there's nae chance of that coming to pass in the deregulated, Capitalist cesspool for which the English electorate routinely vote.