Sturgeonland

[InversneckieDob]

A very English view of the world......

An independent Scotland should be sorting that out by giving them hope, giving them opportunity, not just hand outs to keep them at the bottom.

No, I'd say the clichés you're throwing out represents a far more default English ethos.......judging by plebiscite outcomes at least.

And I wholeheartedly agree with your last paragraph, but I'm also aware there's nae chance of that coming to pass in the deregulated, Capitalist cesspool for which the English electorate routinely vote.

[donsdaft]

Which is why we want an independent Scotland.

[Shetland Don]

A very English view of the world, which is one of the main reasons we want away from the bästards.

I call scroungers scroungers, I don't mix them up with people trying their best who need a little help.

Too many scroungers though, too many junkies, too many wasters.

An independent Scotland should be sorting that out by giving them hope, giving them opportunity, not just hand outs to keep them at the bottom.

Walk down Union Street and see who the scrounges are - no Indians, no Chinese (they graft in their businesses) but those of Roma extraction are rife. Lazy to the core? You decide. A fair Scotland indeed is one to which we should all rightfully aspire.

[Shetland Don]

Good thing too.

A Scotland where everyone pulls their weight is essential.

From each according to their ability etc.

Not just a heap of wasters with their hands out.

Before everyone jumps on me for that, it benefited the Labour Party for years and years to keep folk dependent.

Scotland has to pay its way, not the English Tory way but it has to pay its way regardless.

Good points.

[stewarty27]

The rumour is somethings coming tomorrow.. That won't be good for someone in the SNP. As I say its a rumour so we'll see.

[donsdaft]

Walk down Union Street and see who the scrounges are - no Indians, no Chinese (they graft in their businesses) but those of Roma extraction are rife. Lazy to the core? You decide. A fair Scotland indeed is one to which we should all rightfully aspire.

The Roma are a pain all over Europe but I would suggest a walk down Union Street would leave you with the impression that it was Aberdonians who were the problem.

[57vintage]

Well, this has taken a bit of an unsavoury turn.

[donsdaft]

Not really.

I just meant that the wasters that you see roaming Union Street are home grown wasters, not imported ones.

[theGAYgorDON]

Hating them and refusing to join in with a fantasy are two different things.


Anyway, we have still to find out what a Kate Forbes style Scotland will look like.

One that believes in realism would be a start.

I've been looking in here pretty much daily for as long as I can remember, but never felt the urge to post as my tactical nous pales in comparison to most. I just love the dons, and have done since my first game - a 3-1 defeat to celtic in 1981.

I've been becoming more uncomfortable looking in here of late with an increase in homophobic and prejudice talk on the up.

I'm not going to turn this into a full frontal personal attack, but DonsDaft I have a couple of questions for you as I would like to understand where your thinking comes from.

Firstly, do you understand the difference between gay and trans? You appear to use the two terms interchangeably. Either you are unclear, or you don't care and see them as one and the same - to use your own words, weirdos!

Secondly, I support rights and equality for all people, and all the parts that make up the wonderful LGBTQ+ community. But to keep things simple, let's begin with your feelings on gay people.

You said in an earlier post, in response to a point about you hating gays, that they are living a fantasy? I see nobody to be living a fantasy (straight, gay, trans etc.), but - sticking initially to the gay community - what makes a man who is attracted to men, or a woman who is attracted to women a fantasist? All they are is people who are attracted to people of the same s*x. Nothing sworded, just who thry are. Please explain your dislike of gay people.

And why do you regard them as perverts as you have so often pointed out?

You also said on a previous thread that you wouldn't employ a homo***ual even if they were most qualified for the job - I believe you said "of course I wouldnt". Why is that? What offends you so much that you wouldn't give a job to a gay man or woman?

I'm not offended by what you say on here, it's just words from someone who can't be bothered to understand a world outside of their blinkered view. Im past caring about what your sort think. I'm just curious why you think like this.

I'm not even going to begin on your trans views. I just want to start by understanding the basics.

Thanks
Gordy x

[donsdaft]

Oh, I understand the difference.

One is living their life not asking any input from me.
The other is determined that I go along with their fantasies, even to the point of trying to make it against the law not to.