Quote Originally Posted by 57vintage View Post
No, of course I don’t. But it isn’t binary. That’s Animal Farm stuff again, “Surely you don’t want Jones to come back?” It’s been the flawed SNP defence of failure since they took power, ie “we’re not as bad as….” “our failure rates aren’t as bad as…” and so on. Apart from drugs deaths and nautical construction which are “taking the eye off the ball”.

I said previously that post-1999, the Scottish people have got used to looking to Holyrood for governance and leadership. It’s not a pretty picture, and I have every right to point out that both governments are filled with feckless, spin-addicted shysters and chatlatans who like the lifestyle but not the toil required. The fact that we now freely admit that we have ‘a political class’ should be like a mega-megawatt klaxon ringing in every lug.

I remain disenfranchised.
It's the disenfranchisement that's pushed me to independence.
It's not binary, no, but I'd ask you the question, in your lifetime do you envisage ever seeing a Westminster government whose policies and ethos you don't find morally, ethically and politically repugnant?
From me, it's a hard no.

In an independent Scotland I'd like to think we'd move away from a political class, towards a more mature politics.

Mebbe a naive pipedream but in 2023 when there are people ("hard working families" (tm)) relying on food banks, genuinely debating heat or eat........
And political discourse in Westminster is boiled down to a bunch of real-world-innocent gob-sh1tes braying at each other during PMQ, by fu ck it's time to take a bomb to the whole shooting match.

What would a post independence Scotland look like in the early stages?

Not a clue.
I've no doubt the Brits would try to stiff us in the terms off the divorce, that's when we'll need our big beasts and finest legal and constitutional minds to come to the fore.

Hopefully, the Unionist Scots would respect the result of the plebiscite and work "in the national interest" to put a model in place.

Me and my naive pipedreams again.