Junior Doctors wage

[soulman101]

£14 per hour after all that training, minimum wage you get £10-42p .
Don't seem fair to me.

[baggieal]

£14 per hour after all that training, minimum wage you get £10-42p .
Don't seem fair to me.

Shocking money! After five years training the minimum they should be on is 60K. University fees too should be free!! No incentive to be a doctor whatsoever and be better off taking benefits and working on a building site for cash in hand!

Minimum wage is pathetic!! I am sure all these immigrants would be desperate to work to pay for their board and lodgings!! Surely they don’t expect it for free when our elderly are frightened of turning their energy on!

[baggiematt]

There's a couple of massive misconceptions that Junior Docs are playing on in order to get sympathy.

Firstly, they are not paid £14 per hour. In their first year the basic pay is equivalent to £14 per hour but add-ons like shift bonus's on average make it 30% more. They earn on average £38k straight out of medical school which really isn't bad. That rises in year 2 and quite dramatically in year 3.

They talk about hidden costs for exams and registration but don't talk about hidden earnings such as decent leave arrangements and then the extra shifts they can do are lucrative.

Don't get me wrong, they deserve a pay rise, like most the country, but it's still a very highly paid industry.

[soulman101]

There's a couple of massive misconceptions that Junior Docs are playing on in order to get sympathy.

Firstly, they are not paid £14 per hour. In their first year the basic pay is equivalent to £14 per hour but add-ons like shift bonus's on average make it 30% more. They earn on average £38k straight out of medical school which really isn't bad. That rises in year 2 and quite dramatically in year 3.

They talk about hidden costs for exams and registration but don't talk about hidden earnings such as decent leave arrangements and then the extra shifts they can do are lucrative.

Don't get me wrong, they deserve a pay rise, like most the country, but it's still a very highly paid industry.

I 'm still on their side , but they shouldn't mislead people with those £14 placards'

[Dubbag]

I 'm still on their side , but they shouldn't mislead people with those £14 placards'

They are only doing what the governments do with placards and billboards....

[soulman101]

They are only doing what the governments do with placards and billboards....

I'm with you Dub

[TipperaryBaggie]

£14 per hour after all that training, minimum wage you get £10-42p .
Don't seem fair to me.

That figure is before they start their 5 year training program. As Baggiematt has pointed out, it increases with experience. Also, nobody has mentioned their lucrative pension schemes they end up on. Just saying.

[baggieal]

There's a couple of massive misconceptions that Junior Docs are playing on in order to get sympathy.

Firstly, they are not paid £14 per hour. In their first year the basic pay is equivalent to £14 per hour but add-ons like shift bonus's on average make it 30% more. They earn on average £38k straight out of medical school which really isn't bad. That rises in year 2 and quite dramatically in year 3.

They talk about hidden costs for exams and registration but don't talk about hidden earnings such as decent leave arrangements and then the extra shifts they can do are lucrative.

Don't get me wrong, they deserve a pay rise, like most the country, but it's still a very highly paid industry.

So five years funding their own costs which will probably be circa 100K and paying a ridiculous 7% interest on this student loan then a whopping 38K!! Wow! Most graduate schemes pay this bog standard salary or in many cases much more ie Aldi around 50K.

If I loved medicine - I would look at the huge initial debt and the debt getting bigger with 7% interest - then the poor 38K salary and think:

Let some know immigrant enter this career who would probably get a grant thrown at them or a Scot who gets their training all nicely paid!

No wonder we have a shortage of doctors with patients dying on trollies! Then again - why would Sunak and his Non Dom care when they could get the finest treatment filthy money can buy!

[baggiematt]

So five years funding their own costs which will probably be circa 100K and paying a ridiculous 7% interest on this student loan then a whopping 38K!! Wow! Most graduate schemes pay this bog standard salary or in many cases much more ie Aldi around 50K.

If I loved medicine - I would look at the huge initial debt and the debt getting bigger with 7% interest - then the poor 38K salary and think:

Let some know immigrant enter this career who would probably get a grant thrown at them or a Scot who gets their training all nicely paid!

No wonder we have a shortage of doctors with patients dying on trollies! Then again - why would Sunak and his Non Dom care when they could get the finest treatment filthy money can buy!

Al they are paid more than experienced nurses, police, teachers etc.. and they can't make most decisions around patient care given that they are 23 and just out of medical school.

It's a cracking wage for year one. I have limited sympathy, they'll clear that student debt in no time with their future consultant salary.

As I said before, everyone has the right to strike and fight for an increase but don't believe the £14 per hour. Everyone deserves a pay rise at the minute.

[Barrera]

I think the low pay new doctors get is scandalous after the training they go through. And if the only way they can earn more is by doing insane hours - then more the point. Baristas in Costa earn more per hour. FFS we pay our cleaners £15 per hour.