EFL Refereeing standards

[Lolmorgan]

What if they lost the game but still cheated? Take 3 points from them anyway? Give 3 points to the opponents anyway? That's the main problem of 'retrospection' versus doing it at the time of the offence. Video technology is needed to police it so just expand VAR despite the fact many 'hate' it.

It’s not VAR tho,it’s those pillocks that run it.

[avondalemiller]

Morris was asked after about the "pen". "I think I felt contact was stumbling anyway and went down", What's that supposed to mean then?

Some of the media after were really trying to justify the contact.....some were saying it was a dive tbf.

We have to stamp this out of football, over to you Mr Webb................UTM.

[millertop]

Just watched Luton v Middlesborough and the refereeing was appalling. When are these refs going to be held to account for the decisions they make and their lack of consistency? Tonight a penalty was awarded to Luton that was a clear dive. I think its time for VAR in the EFL.

Thoughts?

Graham Scott who has been promoted to Prem but he apparently refs certain clubs in championship
We had him in our draw against Blades

[millertop]

Morris was asked after about the "pen". "I think I felt contact was stumbling anyway and went down", What's that supposed to mean then?

Some of the media after were really trying to justify the contact.....some were saying it was a dive tbf.

We have to stamp this out of football, over to you Mr Webb................UTM.

This kind of thing is suppose to be looked at and acted on accordingly, clearly EFL have forgot about their rules

[scum_triumphant]

But in order to 'police' such a policy doesn't it need a VAR like system? It would be difficult to make any judgements without very detailed video evidence. You are just moving the point of decision from 'in game' to 'after game' which in reality is probably not the best place for it as in tonight's example Luton would still have the 3pts.

I still think that it will stop when players are getting 3 match bans when it is as blatant as last night.

VAR is still getting in game decisions massively wrong - only a couple of weeks ago it fecked Brighton 3 times in one game.

Have to wait around to celebrate a goal is not for me.

[caytonmiller]

Ban the player for 3 games. Deduct the team 3 points. If they won the game give 3 points to the opposition team. Another scar on the beautiful game
I recall fergy diving for us last season and tbh it was embarrassing as a fan.

[millertop]

But in order to 'police' such a policy doesn't it need a VAR like system? It would be difficult to make any judgements without very detailed video evidence. You are just moving the point of decision from 'in game' to 'after game' which in reality is probably not the best place for it as in tonight's example Luton would still have the 3pts.

EFL have said that any diving would be looked at after games and acted upon, clearly they’ve forgot about it. They wonder why they get abused

Morris should be banned in most games, not only diving but he’s constantly using his elbow

[Derbymiller]

It was a shocking decision he started going down as soon as he saw the keeper come out, it was clear the keeper tried to pull out of his dive. The intention of making linesmen assistant referees was so they got more involved surely he could have taken a minute to consult with his team, the ball had already gone out of play. Even if it is to ask them what they saw. The berry booking was also bad, he clearly stated that it was two events that got him booked, but his first was to interfere with the keeper whilst he had the ball, he should have been booked for the first offence, then again for the second.
I have always thought that if the clubs and managers were told clearly that the referees were going to punish perceived dives and attempts to cheat with a yellow card on the first offence you would get less of it, because of the increased risk of a red. I also cannot stand managers coming out of the technical area, Arteta constantly stands with his feet on the touchline out of the area. The ref should tell managers before the game, if you come out you will be booked, twice you will be sent off. If you are sent off twice in a season for the same offence it is a 10 game touchline ban. You have to enforce the rules and there will be push back, mainly by ex-players that earn big money for spoughting crap on TV and radio

[Ronners]

I still think that it will stop when players are getting 3 match bans when it is as blatant as last night.

VAR is still getting in game decisions massively wrong - only a couple of weeks ago it fecked Brighton 3 times in one game.

Have to wait around to celebrate a goal is not for me.

I understand the frustration about VAR scum, but it gets way more things right than wrong and yes the waiting to celebrate a goal, not all goals though, is frustrating but considering what is at stake in professional football surely it is for the benefit of the game, to make sure the goal is not offside or any other offence, missed by officials, is brought to the referees attention?
I am with CAM on this that surely having VAR and being able to deal with cheating players in the moment is far better for the team that have been cheated, because even if the cheating player receives a lengthy ban retrospectively, the cheated team still lose the game so would get little consolation from it. Also what if the cheating player is on a team that are losing heavily at the time? cheating doesnt always go for the winning team, and if Luton had lost the game yesterday then the outcry for some kind of justice wouldn't have been as bad so, for me anyway, cheating needs to be dealt with in the moment and not afterwards. UTM

[jocksgloves]

We've got the game we deserve. It's gone from a sport to big business. It's now all about winning, nothing else matters.
Managers lose a few games on the trot, and fans are howling for their removal. Same with players, who can blame them for trying to keep us on their side?
We're all quite happy to watch our teams do virtually anything to win, but are outraged when opponents do the same. In the middle of this are the officials who get all the hassle from all sides.
The FA could stop it in no time, as FIFA did in the world cup, but they are more interested in money than actually running the game.
The Championship is full of basket- case clubs for whom relegation would be a disaster due to the huge debts they've all run up.