Back to the drawing board

[islaydarkblue]

I can guarantee you that Nelms has put money into DFC. Gardiner was fond of speaking to the media, but most of it was ****e, hence the nickname Spoofer.

Prove it.
I know that Nelms was receiving an annual salary of £128,000 when Dundee FC were playing in the Championship and Alan Burrows who was the Chief Executive and a director of Motherwell FC was receiving an annual salary of £60,000 when Motherwell FC were playing in the Premier League.
At that time both sets of accounts lodged at Companies House listed what the highest paid director received in that financial year.
The Dundee FC Ltd annual accounts are now ‘Filleted’ Annual Accounts which does not include the income of the highest paid director and the accounts tell us very little.
The Dundee Football Club Limited annual accounts for the year ending 31st May 2022 are due to be lodged at Companies House by 31st May 2023.

[thegen65]

Hope you don't mind my answer.

I think the big picture is that we have had a succession of owners who have tried to go too quickly. Fan based ownership didn't work for us until Bill Colvin came on board and I think he passed us over to what should have been a safe pair of hands with consideration financial resources. The trouble has been that a very early decision was made to abandon Dens and that is the core of the problem. We are not a strong performing SPFL club with 12-15k supporters so anything we try to do has to be done on a shoestring budget.

For me getting our ground back, as part of DFC is essential. I can't see any picture with us playing in a brand new stadium at Campy. I can see loads of youngsters coming back to support us if they get the sort of encouragement that Bowyer gave them and they have a special space in the South Enclosure.

Thank you for your reply BCram some good points raised there.

[thegen65]

I believe that the management of Dundee Football Club should attempt to get as many bums on seats at home games at Dens Park instead of making it difficult for supporters who are not season ticket holders who at present have to queue up twice to get into Dens Park..

100 per cent agree with that. The clubs process for buying match tickets is far from ideal. There is no chance of them introducing PATG in my opinion, so we need to make it easier with a print a ticket at home option, or barcode on phone ,scan at the turnstile etc.

[BCram]

100 per cent agree with that. The clubs process for buying match tickets is far from ideal. There is no chance of them introducing PATG in my opinion, so we need to make it easier with a print a ticket at home option, or barcode on phone ,scan at the turnstile etc.

Exactly this^^^^^.
The problem for the owners is that if they put in this type of system for getting your ticket and getting into Dens it undermines the Season Ticket mentality that they have been trying to adopt. I don't think ST sales are going to be as high as when Hartley got us promoted.
If they don’t pick up then the only way is to actually invest in a modern ticketing system and completely wipe out all the PATG arguments and criticism about double queuing on match day.
Imagine no moans about queues and the hassle you have to go through if you just fancy going to watch DFC.

[BP33]

Prove it.
I know that Nelms was receiving an annual salary of £128,000 when Dundee FC were playing in the Championship and Alan Burrows who was the Chief Executive and a director of Motherwell FC was receiving an annual salary of £60,000 when Motherwell FC were playing in the Premier League.
At that time both sets of accounts lodged at Companies House listed what the highest paid director received in that financial year.
The Dundee FC Ltd annual accounts are now ‘Filleted’ Annual Accounts which does not include the income of the highest paid director and the accounts tell us very little.
The Dundee Football Club Limited annual accounts for the year ending 31st May 2022 are due to be lodged at Companies House by 31st May 2023.

If Tim Keyes wants to pay Nelms £128k that’s up to him. Your hatred of Nelms is bordering on obsession.

[islaydarkblue]

If Tim Keyes wants to pay Nelms £128k that’s up to him. Your hatred of Nelms is bordering on obsession.

John Nelms stated a pack of lies about me in a letter to the D4L board of directors and until my dying day I will never forget what he did especially as he crossed a Red Line for me when he dragged my wife into it.
John Nelms hates D4L and everything it stands for.
It would have been interesting to see what would have happened if I had been a DSA office bearer.

[Deeranged]

John Nelms stated a pack of lies about me in a letter to the D4L board of directors and until my dying day I will never forget what he did especially as he crossed a Red Line for me when he dragged my wife into it.

And don't we all know it?????????????

You need to learn to move on, bitterness like you harbour toward John Nelms will tear you up inside. May I suggest you start using cannabis? For 'medicinal purposes' of course.

[islaydarkblue]

And don't we all know it?????????????

You need to learn to move on, bitterness like you harbour toward John Nelms will tear you up inside. May I suggest you start using cannabis? For 'medicinal purposes' of course.

There is a well known saying it comes to those who waits.

[islaydarkblue]

Exactly this^^^^^.
The problem for the owners is that if they put in this type of system for getting your ticket and getting into Dens it undermines the Season Ticket mentality that they have been trying to adopt. I don't think ST sales are going to be as high as when Hartley got us promoted.
If they don’t pick up then the only way is to actually invest in a modern ticketing system and completely wipe out all the PATG arguments and criticism about double queuing on match day.
Imagine no moans about queues and the hassle you have to go through if you just fancy going to watch DFC.

In September 2022 Dee4life offered to pay for the full cost of the installation of an E Ticketing system in Dens Park but John Nelms turned down this offer.

[BCram]

In September 2022 Dee4life offered to pay for the full cost of the installation of an E Ticketing system in Dens Park but John Nelms turned down this offer.

At that time it might have made sense. When he realises Dens was the only acceptable venue he could sell ST'S for that , I hope would change his answer if the offer were to be repeated.