Russia Admits Taking 700,000 Children

[baggieal]

Nobody seems to care but more bothered about the support for Pride!

Wouldn’t blame Ukraine if they used every Western missile to fire them towards Moscow!

Hitler 2 and many hope it will go away!

[Omegstrat6]

One of the problems of the war in Ukraine dragging on is that a kind of media fatigue sets in and people stop thinking about it. But it remains a big concern with global implications still and I think it is important that the West doesn't falter in its support as Putin is obviously happy to now play a long game if he has to. I had hoped, like many, that the "mutiny" might have had a far bigger impact. A failed Russian state benefits no one but Putin needs to go and be punished for his actions with the message to similar leaders such as Xi Jinping made clear. The Ukrainians have shown incredible resilience and suffered greatly and they deserve Western support to help them bring an end to Putin's illegal attack on them.

When talking about Ukraine and the issue of the media and public losing interest, I am also keenly aware that there are also many other conflicts across the globe where thousands of innocent people are suffering but because these are happening in Africa or China or India or the Middle East to people's who are a different colour and vastly different culture to ours we tend to give scant regard to them. They may not carry the same geo-political threats to us as Russia but they are still atrocities that should not be ignored.

Not decrying the rights of LGBTQ communities but the whole Pride month celebrations in the UK now seems just like woke box ticking on behalf of businesses and government and in the context of other things going on in the world I agree that it hardly seems proportionate.

[On Balance]

One of the problems of the war in Ukraine dragging on is that a kind of media fatigue sets in and people stop thinking about it. But it remains a big concern with global implications still and I think it is important that the West doesn't falter in its support as Putin is obviously happy to now play a long game if he has to. I had hoped, like many, that the "mutiny" might have had a far bigger impact. A failed Russian state benefits no one but Putin needs to go and be punished for his actions with the message to similar leaders such as Xi Jinping made clear. The Ukrainians have shown incredible resilience and suffered greatly and they deserve Western support to help them bring an end to Putin's illegal attack on them.

When talking about Ukraine and the issue of the media and public losing interest, I am also keenly aware that there are also many other conflicts across the globe where thousands of innocent people are suffering but because these are happening in Africa or China or India or the Middle East to people's who are a different colour and vastly different culture to ours we tend to give scant regard to them. They may not carry the same geo-political threats to us as Russia but they are still atrocities that should not be ignored.

Not decrying the rights of LGBTQ communities but the whole Pride month celebrations in the UK now seems just like woke box ticking on behalf of businesses and government and in the context of other things going on in the world I agree that it hardly seems proportionate.

That is a very good post Omegstrat6.

I agree with everything you say. It is so noticeable that the media, in print, on line, tv all now cover the war, and it is a Ferkin was Mr murdering Putin, a war you started, but it no longer is the lead story in all the afore mention media’s. And there are wars going on all over the world and they are shockingly awful and cause so much human misery.

The thing is, how do we as a nation, we in the west, we who respect human life, deal with these atrocities. If we police the world we are hated, we pull back, we lose respect. We do nothing, we are hated and we lose respect.

LGBT+ is fine, but all this pandering to everything is weakening us as a society. We need to allow people to be different but not to the loss of others who want not to be different. We need to respect every way of life. When the respect for freedom and they way of life we choose is lost then we’ll end up where Russia and many other totalitarianism countries are. You, me everyone will have not rites other than to follow the likes of Putin or be jailed or killed.

[baggieal]

One of the problems of the war in Ukraine dragging on is that a kind of media fatigue sets in and people stop thinking about it. But it remains a big concern with global implications still and I think it is important that the West doesn't falter in its support as Putin is obviously happy to now play a long game if he has to. I had hoped, like many, that the "mutiny" might have had a far bigger impact. A failed Russian state benefits no one but Putin needs to go and be punished for his actions with the message to similar leaders such as Xi Jinping made clear. The Ukrainians have shown incredible resilience and suffered greatly and they deserve Western support to help them bring an end to Putin's illegal attack on them.

When talking about Ukraine and the issue of the media and public losing interest, I am also keenly aware that there are also many other conflicts across the globe where thousands of innocent people are suffering but because these are happening in Africa or China or India or the Middle East to people's who are a different colour and vastly different culture to ours we tend to give scant regard to them. They may not carry the same geo-political threats to us as Russia but they are still atrocities that should not be ignored.

Not decrying the rights of LGBTQ communities but the whole Pride month celebrations in the UK now seems just like woke box ticking on behalf of businesses and government and in the context of other things going on in the world I agree that it hardly seems proportionate.

Good post and totally agree with you! Hope you are well besides!

[Omegstrat6]

Good post and totally agree with you! Hope you are well besides!

Hi baggieal, yep, we're all good thanks. Actually on holiday this week, not doing much (though I'm sure the better half will find me stuff to keep me occupied&#128513 but nice to have a break from work. Trust you and yours are well.

[boingy]

One of the problems of the war in Ukraine dragging on is that a kind of media fatigue sets in and people stop thinking about it. But it remains a big concern with global implications still and I think it is important that the West doesn't falter in its support as Putin is obviously happy to now play a long game if he has to. I had hoped, like many, that the "mutiny" might have had a far bigger impact. A failed Russian state benefits no one but Putin needs to go and be punished for his actions with the message to similar leaders such as Xi Jinping made clear. The Ukrainians have shown incredible resilience and suffered greatly and they deserve Western support to help them bring an end to Putin's illegal attack on them.

When talking about Ukraine and the issue of the media and public losing interest, I am also keenly aware that there are also many other conflicts across the globe where thousands of innocent people are suffering but because these are happening in Africa or China or India or the Middle East to people's who are a different colour and vastly different culture to ours we tend to give scant regard to them. They may not carry the same geo-political threats to us as Russia but they are still atrocities that should not be ignored.

Not decrying the rights of LGBTQ communities but the whole Pride month celebrations in the UK now seems just like woke box ticking on behalf of businesses and government and in the context of other things going on in the world I agree that it hardly seems proportionate.

That’s the problem with politics. In other parts of the world they wouldn’t even know about the war in Ukraine because they’re in one of their own. Doesn’t affect the UK so their players can play in tennis tournaments. I read somewhere that there are 38 wars going on right now. We are only made aware of one. We only penalise one set of players. Politics never gives a whole picture. Only the one that suits them to let us know about. Lives are lives aren’t they? From wherever you come from.

[baggieal]

That’s the problem with politics. In other parts of the world they wouldn’t even know about the war in Ukraine because they’re in one of their own. Doesn’t affect the UK so their players can play in tennis tournaments. I read somewhere that there are 38 wars going on right now. We are only made aware of one. We only penalise one set of players. Politics never gives a whole picture. Only the one that suits them to let us know about. Lives are lives aren’t they? From wherever you come from.

Can’t recall in other parts of the world though where innocent children are exported and civilian buildings are bombed with huge missiles. If some shrug their shoulders at what Putin and his cronies are doing then for sure they had no issue with Hitler!

In terms of sports players entering competitions - can you blame the resentment from Ukrainians? Presume any support whether it’s a Z symbol etc the said players are banned for life! More chance of a football fan banned for life for making a woke joke at a match!

[Omegstrat6]

That is a very good post Omegstrat6.

I agree with everything you say. It is so noticeable that the media, in print, on line, tv all now cover the war, and it is a Ferkin was Mr murdering Putin, a war you started, but it no longer is the lead story in all the afore mention media’s. And there are wars going on all over the world and they are shockingly awful and cause so much human misery.

The thing is, how do we as a nation, we in the west, we who respect human life, deal with these atrocities. If we police the world we are hated, we pull back, we lose respect. We do nothing, we are hated and we lose respect.

LGBT+ is fine, but all this pandering to everything is weakening us as a society. We need to allow people to be different but not to the loss of others who want not to be different. We need to respect every way of life. When the respect for freedom and they way of life we choose is lost then we’ll end up where Russia and many other totalitarianism countries are. You, me everyone will have not rites other than to follow the likes of Putin or be jailed or killed.

Think you pretty much hit the nail on the head yourself!

We cannot kid ourselves that we are a major player on the international stage any more but I think that we still have a moral obligation to point out injustices where we see them. I'm not naive enough to not accept that degrees of more unsavoury "real politik" will always be there, but the old saying about evil only requiring good men to do nothing is true and only if a light is shone on things can debate follow and then possible pressure to effect change. We may not have the financial resources to support (and in these times of economic hardship charity rightly begins at home) but we should still speak out. Modern attitudes towards imperialism would justifiably make any country seeking to act as "world policeman" unpopular but just because Britain did some bad things in its own colonial past does not make its criticisms of other regimes today less valid.

As for the LGBTQ/gender wars issue, I totally agree with you that pandering to minority groups can weaken society. A few, vocal, extremists seem to be deliberately causing divisions and-to my mind-are acting out of a kind of over exaggerated sense of entitlement (eg certain demands on self-identification) and their closing down of the opinion of others is a dangerous attack on freedom of speech masquerading as civil liberties itself. Being a part of any society is a trade off between the freedom of individuals to act exactly as they want and the benefits (including certain protections) that that society can offer. Any Social Contract should be in a constant state of flux to try and ensure increasing fairness in society but individuals cannot simply demand that the rest bend to their own specific desires. All united societies depend on both compromise and-that most elusive of words -"reasonableness"!

[boingy]

Can’t recall in other parts of the world though where innocent children are exported and civilian buildings are bombed with huge missiles. If some shrug their shoulders at what Putin and his cronies are doing then for sure they had no issue with Hitler!

In terms of sports players entering competitions - can you blame the resentment from Ukrainians? Presume any support whether it’s a Z symbol etc the said players are banned for life! More chance of a football fan banned for life for making a woke joke at a match!

This kind of thing (kind of thing) happens in wars anywhere. I remember talking to a traumatised ex British soldier who was ordered to kill men women and children when he was out in Asia. Never got over it. Of course this wasn’t on the news.