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[ThaiPie]

Very valid original post Kyle95. Businesses, have their ups and down, a bit like football teams. If FR is struggling, well it could affect things.
There's is a really positive vibe among Notts fans about the owners. I hope it doesn't turn out to be groupthink.

[upthemaggies]

It's been self evident for some time that they haven't got the money some people thought they had, or at least they're not prepared to spend the money some thought they would, but as we're still in tier 4 - so long as they can keep things ticking over - there's a decent chance they can get us into tier 3, based on how previous owners have faired (Hardy was two games away from achieving it).

They will hit a brick wall eventually, or become disillusioned. I'd anticipate that will happen in tier 3 once they realise they can't do any better than outside the play offs, then I suppose it depends what the market is like for buying football clubs and how far down those with ambition are prepared to look - which will dictate whether it's to be a smooth transition to new ownership with the necessary clout to progress further or falling back into tier 4 as we become desperate to find a buyer, similar to the Trew scenario.

[WarsopPie]

https://find-and-update.company-info...filing-history

Shows a decent profit I’m not worried

[SwalePie]

I see the ncm whips are busy 

Spot on

[laddo]

Spot on and needed.

[OP67]

https://find-and-update.company-info...filing-history

Shows a decent profit I’m not worried

It does indeed and as they're not the sole investor there's nothing to worry about at all.

[CheltenhamPie]

It does indeed and as they're not the sole investor there's nothing to worry about at all.

Very pleased to read your positive and sensible quote.

[BanjoPie]

It does indeed and as they're not the sole investor there's nothing to worry about at all.

Who are the other investors?

[jackal2]

It's been self evident for some time that they haven't got the money some people thought they had, or at least they're not prepared to spend the money some thought they would, but as we're still in tier 4 - so long as they can keep things ticking over - there's a decent chance they can get us into tier 3, based on how previous owners have faired (Hardy was two games away from achieving it).

They will hit a brick wall eventually, or become disillusioned. I'd anticipate that will happen in tier 3 once they realise they can't do any better than outside the play offs, then I suppose it depends what the market is like for buying football clubs and how far down those with ambition are prepared to look - which will dictate whether it's to be a smooth transition to new ownership with the necessary clout to progress further or falling back into tier 4 as we become desperate to find a buyer, similar to the Trew scenario.

Whatever assumptions 'some people' made about the Reedtz brothers having or spending big amounts of money, the brothers themselves have never made such claims or promises. In fact, quite the opposite. Their plan appears to be similar to the ones used by Brentford and Luton, who use outstanding scouting to identify and sign players with great potential at a modest price/wage, whose attributes are matched to a defined and entrenched style of play, allowing them to develop and shine and maybe get sold on at a profit.

I don't necessarily share your pessimistic view about a 'brick wall'. The model above can work at any level as long as you keep making the right choices. Brentford in particular have shown what can be achieved, now playing two levels above where you would normally expect them to be, while bigger clubs who've (mis)spent far more money are languishing in the Championship and League One.

Money helps, but it isn't the only determinant of success.

[laddo]

UTM is very consistent with this view on the owners, it has varied little since the first couple of seasons.

Of course he is fully entitled to his opinion but it should be noted that there are also some strong assumptions contained within. You have to when predicting the future.

If they do manage to get us into tier 3 I'm very confident in predicting that will be in far better shape than both the circumstances when we last managed it and when we were just two games at from achieving it.

If the brick ball prediction does indeed occur and it happens with us 10th in L1, then happy to judge the owners in glowing terms at that point. No argument about progress or whether the owners were good or not in that scenario.