Have I Got Huws For You!

[Omegstrat6]

Totally agree Mick. I have a GP friend who says thousands play the mental health issue when being pursued by courts, bailiffs, HMRC, debt collectors etc and it makes me sick!! When any individual plays this card it puts somebody who really needs help in jeopardy. Two weeks ago a friend who was a successful business woman ( 49 ) with beautiful kids committed suicide. The signs were missed how bad the demons actually were.

Many caring companies ( banks especially ) have specialist departments to deal with cases of mental health, cancer etc although with some understandably a hospital note in confidence needs to be forwarded for confirmation, These people get premium care and trained operators who show empathy and care. So they should.

Trouble with mental health though it’s not easy to evaluate the risk factor ie someone in debt could say it’s affecting their mental health where the next person is bottling it and have serious issues the demons are saying - end it!

Think that is the problem isn't it, trying to decide which cases are genuine and which not.

I think a lot of this is cultural/generational as the whole Harry and Meghan thing demonstrated- the old British "stiff upper lip"/ never complain/ get on with it versus the more American ideas of "therapy" and talking (seemingly endlessly!) about feelings.

Raising awareness around mental well being can only be a good thing ( bottling stuff up for example up might seem like being strong but can be very damaging ) but the attitude of a minority of "snowflakes" who take offence at anything distracts from genuine needs. As workplaces fall over themselves to complete woke tick boxes such as having "mental awareness days" they also fall foul of those staff calling in sickies on the vague grounds of "stress".

Sadly there will always be a minority who fraudulently exploit any system for their own gain at the expense of those in genuine need.

[mickd1961]

I totally understand where you are coming from, given your recent response to me. However, mental health takes many, many form and can fester over a long period and, of not diagnosed, can lead to serious issues. It’s a very cruel world and I have made light of this man, however, none of us know of his demons. No excuse as he was well enough to read the news etc. However, many continue in life looking normal on the outside whilst struggling with their mental health.

I would be interested to hear from anyone else on here who had suffered any depression issues and feels able to discuss.

I can only talk about my own experience.

I don’t think anyone who knew me would believe that I could possibly be a candidate for depression given the way I am on the face of things and spends most of his time having a laugh and taking the p I s s and having it taken back quite rightly.

My own situation became very acute 18 months ago and from January 2022 until this very day, I have been paying for psychotherapy, I’ve just returned from from this weeks session.

I was at the bottom of the barrel 18 months ago, thankfully I possess enough self awareness that suicide was never an option for me.

But at no stage though did I think that indulging in any form of high risk activity was a track to go down.

This is a get out of jail card effort from Edwards, it’s beyond underhand, it’s manipulative in my opinion.

I note with interest now how all of the media haters and Sun and Daily Mail haters like that vile snake Alistair Campbell are flocking to his defence.

Fellow media mates are now crawling up his a r s e as well, a truly sickening spectacle.

What about his wife’s statement, all terribly sorry for Huw and his media mates dragged into this yet not a single note of contrition or apology towards the youngsters involved……talk about self serving.

Now it’s coming out about inappropriate behaviour towards younger members of BBC staff, some of whom have felt it necessary to leave the BBC.

Oh……he also broke Covid lockdown laws as well, Kay Burley at SKY got suspended for six months and very nearly lost her job over a Covid breach.

Instead of targeting right wing media that certain posters on here hate and certainly many in the media hate, especially at the BBC…….it would be nice to see that put to one side and judge this man based on his predatory and risky behaviour!

[baggieal]

Think that is the problem isn't it, trying to decide which cases are genuine and which not.

I think a lot of this is cultural/generational as the whole Harry and Meghan thing demonstrated- the old British "stiff upper lip"/ never complain/ get on with it versus the more American ideas of "therapy" and talking (seemingly endlessly!) about feelings.

Raising awareness around mental well being can only be a good thing ( bottling stuff up for example up might seem like being strong but can be very damaging ) but the attitude of a minority of "snowflakes" who take offence at anything distracts from genuine needs. As workplaces fall over themselves to complete woke tick boxes such as having "mental awareness days" they also fall foul of those staff calling in sickies on the vague grounds of "stress".

Sadly there will always be a minority who fraudulently exploit any system for their own gain at the expense of those in genuine need.

Totally agree Omeg. Not too many want to exploit mental health though when it’s documented on their GP notes and they have not taken up specialist referrals etc. I can’t see what the big issue is ( private and confidential ) for some employers to raise the mental health issue and in certain cases ask for an extract of a medical record or a GP note for fitness. For example - why should a pilot be allowed to fly hundreds of passengers if their employer is aware of a mental health issue. Remember that German pilot who flew the plane full of kids on purpose into the mountains. Had the employer been aware ( and they should have been) of his state of mind - he wouldn’t have been allowed to fly.

After all many employers now do enhanced police checks on recruits - credit history checks in certain roles - so really can’t see the issue. Insurance companies now ask certain medical questions and if a person lies - there would be no pay out!

Can’t see the issue as medical notes or extracts are no different to enhanced police checks or credit checks. You would NEVER employ somebody in most financial jobs without an enhanced police check and seeing their personal credit history! Tough? Completely right though!

[mickd1961]

I’m waiting for Huw’s public explanation…..I guess it’ll be along these lines….


https://youtu.be/REpNTi-9oRQ

[baggieal]

I’m waiting for Huw’s public explanation…..I guess it’ll be along these lines….


https://youtu.be/REpNTi-9oRQ

What if he was suffering from mental health as documented in his medical records prior to the first allegation. Many fakers as per my previous post only play the mental health card when there’s an issue.

Still say in certain roles medical records should be obtained by an employer or extracts! Some companies will ask employees to contractually sign that anything criminal ( including a motoring offence ) should be disclosed or it’s instant dismissal. Same should apply to mental health where it could put the employee or those in their care in danger. Certain jobs like pilots etc then doctors should be obliged by law to contact employers if they deem there’s a risk!

[mickd1961]

What if he was suffering from mental health as documented in his medical records prior to the first allegation. Many fakers as per my previous post only play the mental health card when there’s an issue.

Still say in certain roles medical records should be obtained by an employer or extracts! Some companies will ask employees to contractually sign that anything criminal ( including a motoring offence ) should be disclosed or it’s instant dismissal. Same should apply to mental health where it could put the employee or those in their care in danger. Certain jobs like pilots etc then doctors should be obliged by law to contact employers if they deem there’s a risk!

He’s mentioned his mental health in the last couple of years, like he’s been setting himself up for being caught and having his excuse ready.

A bit like Schofield letting us all know he was gay in his late 50’s, lining up the excuse when he already knew he was doing risky stuff.

These are clever, manipulative people and high achieving as well, you only get to their positions by being ruthless.

Telling how many media mates of a similar age are saying what a gent he was whilst younger people are revealing a really dark alter ego……people like this are dangerous.

I’ll be honest about myself, I was a complete a r s e hole at times but I didn’t differentiate, I was as objectionable to one person as I was to any other, I didn’t give a toss who’s nose I put out of joint until I woke up ( finally ) to the damage I was doing to others, especially to those close to me.

The difference with the likes of Edwards is that they pick their victims carefully, they portray themselves as one thing but their truth comes out in the way they treat those with no power or voice.

[phild]

Im getting sick of this cesspit of vulgarity swirling around us. We have trannys gyrating in school childrens faces and now we have those in the public eye paying for obscene images of boys who are younger than his own kids, its sickening and by using the mental health card he hopes that his predatory actions will be portrayed as though he's the victim. But it wont wash and it shouldn't be allowed to, he is just another filthy, deviant nonce.

[mickd1961]

Im getting sick of this cesspit of vulgarity swirling around us. We have trannys gyrating in school childrens faces and now we have those in the public eye paying for obscene images of boys who are younger than his own kids, its sickening and by using the mental health card he hopes that his predatory actions will be portrayed as though he's the victim. But it wont wash and it shouldn't be allowed to, he is just another filthy, deviant nonce.

I think a lot of us of a certain vintage feel this way Phil.

I will state this here and now and accept I’ll be shot down in a million pieces on here if I’m wrong….

The mental health card will win…..he will have his media mates drowning us with sympathy on his behalf.

Here’s the thing about mental health treatment, many of us don’t even tell those close to us when we’re having treatment, the last thing we want is sympathy.

My own mum and brother and the vast majority of my family know nothing of my struggles or my treatment, most would be gobsmacked.

I talk about it on here because this is pretty much faceless, to most of you I will always be an unknown stranger but to people like Des, Stevie, Prando, AL and Kets who know me, it’s easier to talk about stuff like this with them and the rest of you than it is with family.

In fact, it’s thanks to Boingy that I’m doing okay now, he recommended a psychologist to me who has helped sort my head out and to help me make sense of myself for the first time in my life.

You don’t go running for a psychiatrist when you get caught out, you throw yourself at that treatment when you’re feeling vulnerable to doing something stupid or about to make a bad decision.

I despise his manipulation.

I can see straight through him even if others can’t , this is so blatant.

I hope the young people he’s trodden over are doing okay tonight, my thoughts are for their mental health rather than this self righteous p rick.

[On Balance]

On the other hand others like me look mad and deranged from the outside while being perfectly normal inside.🙂

Thankfully, I’ve never seen your insides, nor your outsides come to that. 🙂

[On Balance]

The issue is, do you believe in everything in print, whether in a newspaper or on social media sites.

People are taken in by the media hype, BBC etc, social media. The Nicola Bulley case, someone on this site said they felt for the husband. A few days later they had him down as the killer of her. Was that fair?

We do not know if this is man is suffering metal health issues or not. As Baggie Al says, his medical history will tell. Has he committed any crimes? Time will tell.

I agree it all sounds sordid, but, and here is the but. Let the process conclude and then you can deal with it. If he has done what they say, it’s awful. His career is finished and the process will decide whether any criminality has occurred. If it hasn’t, then it may be a matter between two people. As sick as that appears, in todays society that is where it ends. I’m not supporting him, I’m saying let the process finish before you set the village thugs on him.

For the record I don’t like it one bit. Just so people don’t try to twist what I say.