O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[Robertomac]

If they happen, any celebrations will be confined to the Tories being booted out.

They need to become the past, but I can't see a bright future under Labour.

Just a slightly less corrupt future.

My thoughts exactly. This hopelessly incompetent but dangerously corrupt bunch of Tories need ousting ASAP, but the prospect of Keir Starmer offers little optimism. He comes across as lacking any conviction in anything and him and Ed Davey struggling to describe what a woman is really leaves me concerned. I might add I'm not anti trans, or anti anything for that matter - live and let live. My concern with this particular issue is the erosion of women's rights. Starmer stands for nothing and is clearly playing the game to enhance his election prospects, but in doing so seems to be appealing more to the status quo than offering any change. I fear he'll be Tory 2.0 in a red shirt.

I think the next election will be more a case of the Tories losing than Labour winning. I think we need 'None of the Above' as an option on the ballot paper to shock the complacent charlatans into the real world.

[Elite_Pie]

So the LibDems won one, Labour won one, and ULEZ won one.

The bigger picture is clear, I'll settle for that.

[OP67]

So the LibDems won one, Labour won one, and ULEZ won one.

The bigger picture is clear, I'll settle for that.

ULEZ didn't win one though did it. it was a Tory seat that Labour failed to win and blamed the ULEZ imposing Labour London mayor.

At the end of the day they all promise the world and deliver nowt!!! Tory or Labour, neither are worth a vote!

[Elite_Pie]

ULEZ didn't win one though did it. it was a Tory seat that Labour failed to win and blamed the ULEZ imposing Labour London mayor.

ULEZ won it for the Tories. Without ULEZ, it would now be a Labour seat.

[OP67]

My thoughts exactly. This hopelessly incompetent but dangerously corrupt bunch of Tories need ousting ASAP, but the prospect of Keir Starmer offers little optimism. He comes across as lacking any conviction in anything and him and Ed Davey struggling to describe what a woman is really leaves me concerned. I might add I'm not anti trans, or anti anything for that matter - live and let live. My concern with this particular issue is the erosion of women's rights. Starmer stands for nothing and is clearly playing the game to enhance his election prospects, but in doing so seems to be appealing more to the status quo than offering any change. I fear he'll be Tory 2.0 in a red shirt.

I think the next election will be more a case of the Tories losing than Labour winning. I think we need 'None of the Above' as an option on the ballot paper to shock the complacent charlatans into the real world.

Absolutely, there needs to be a change but Labour are not the answer that's for sure. Politics in the UK needs a massive shake up but unfortunately it'll never happen.