Quote Originally Posted by Newish Pie View Post
Well, no... I'm not suggesting that County be renamed "Data Nerds Restoring Historic But Underperforming Football Club To Proper Place in Football Pyramid For Fun and Profit". I mean, that would ruin the Wheelbarrow Song. But it's hard to avoid the political right's approach to misleading names. To be absolutely fair, "GB" "News" probably isn't quite in the same category as So-Called Taxpayers Alliance, but neither does it do what it says on the twin.

"GB" "News" is right leaning... just look at the roster of presenters. They're all right wing. Not only that, they're all from the right wing of right wing.. the right wing of the Conservative Party or UKIP or successors. It's there for all to see. TV media only looks left wing to those who are very right wing. Or to people who think the print media is balanced. Of course TV news looks left wing if you're right wing enough to think that "GB" "News" might be anything other than very right wing.

A left wing version would be a bad thing for democracy too, because then even more people would vanish into their echo chambers, as in the US. Not only that, I'd see a TV station with programmes presented by (say) Owen Jones and John McDonnell as just as awful and unwatchable as "GB" "News". Although we have seen a growth in left wing media, it's been largely web based and of distinctly variable quality, but without billionaire backers it's hard to see anything on the scale of "GB" "News" get off the ground... 'cos the left typically doesn't have billionaire backers.

"GB" "News" came about because non-British billionaire backers wanted to create a UK version of Fox News, a right wing echo chamber where right-wingers can interview other right-wingers. I'm honestly not sure whether they think they'll eventually profit from it, or whether it's a loss-leader to try to shift the Overton window towards the right and influence our politics in their preferred direction.

I'm not trying to portray anyone as anything, and I'm sorry if you feel that way or if I've given that impression. I thought you followed up your initial post very clearly with your appreciation for what non-UK pundits have brought. You also said that you had a similar appreciation for the punditry work of female and non-white panellists as to while male panellists... I hope that's a fair summary. I'd also respectfully point out that you raised this topic as a reason to dislike the BBC, not me.

I'm happy to accept that you're not annoyed or angry about the BBC's idea of balance and diversity, but that you just don't like it. I'm still puzzled as to why you don't like it, but you don't owe me an explanation.
You really have no idea do you. most of the mainstream TV media in the country has a left wing bias. Look at their positions on things and then see if it alligns with the left wing position or the right wing position.

I am on the left of the political spectrum and when i watch some stuff from GB news to me it looks slightly right of centre and that is at most. When i watch something from the BBC, Channel 4 etc the utter left win bias is almost painful. Just look to the reporting they do on social stuff such as the trans discussion, abortion, racism, immegration. They will always have the left wing position. Whenever anyone raises anything that goes against their narrative the BBC will call them conspiracy theories rather than valid viewpoints.