NL v League 2

[BigFatPie]

Frustrating as we never gave ourselves a chance in that match. You give a goal and a man away in the opening 12 minutes against any team and you give yourselves a mountain to climb.

Rawlinson and Brindley should be back-ups. We started with the only changes from last season being Stone and McGoldrick. I think you could argue that it isn't any stronger.

If the brothers have any money and their recruitment is everything it's cracked up to be surely we can find a centre half who is an improvement on the two above.

An injury prone fullback (Fisher) and a loanee from Wolves aren't the answer.

Having said this - it's a disappointing dose of reality but I don't think 11v11 the game plays out anything like that.

The obvious conclusion from that game is that we should have been in for Sowumni, but as we all know he probably wouldn’t be judged to be a good enough footballer for us.

We ask a lot from our centre halves, but obviously the higher up you go the better the defenders they have to be. Let’s hope the Wolves lad is a baller cos we’re in bother if he isn’t.

[queenslandpie]

I remember playing Barnet at home last season and for the first half an hour or so they pressed us intensely and really rattled us. But they lacked the fitness and cohesion to continue to do it for the whole game and eventually we rolled them. Sutton played a similar style today but did have the fitness and cohesion to do it for 90 minutes. And we got hammered. I think this is a worrying result and we need some ugly side to our play quite quickly. Too nice and too soft. Also whats this nonsense with ifollow not being able to be used on Chrome cast. I had to watch it on my phone. Need a solution for that as well. This adjusting to live in League 2 malarkey is a right pain.

[BJPIE]

Frustrating as we never gave ourselves a chance in that match. You give a goal and a man away in the opening 12 minutes against any team and you give yourselves a mountain to climb.

Rawlinson and Brindley should be back-ups. We started with the only changes from last season being Stone and McGoldrick. I think you could argue that it isn't any stronger.

If the brothers have any money and their recruitment is everything it's cracked up to be surely we can find a centre half who is an improvement on the two above.

An injury prone fullback (Fisher) and a loanee from Wolves aren't the answer.

Having said this - it's a disappointing dose of reality but I don't think 11v11 the game plays out anything like that.

Tommopie8 did you attend today? Do you watch regularly? Why doesn't your criticism include Cameron. Rawlo is by no means a world beater but his game has improved under Williams. I don't think that is true of Brindley or Cameron

[OchPie]

Totally agree that where we stepped off, they went through - and the ref let some very physical stuff go. Both teams had pace but they used theirs speculatively to great effect.

Also whats this nonsense with ifollow not being able to be used on Chrome cast. I had to watch it on my phone. Need a solution for that as well. This adjusting to live in League 2 malarkey is a right pain.

I was watching via the browser on my TV directly and it worked ok, I set it up after reading that casting was blocked.

[queenslandpie]

Totally agree that where we stepped off, they went through - and the ref let some very physical stuff go. Both teams had pace but they used theirs speculatively to great effect.



I was watching via the browser on my TV directly and it worked ok, I set it up after reading that casting was blocked.

Yeah I was totally disorganised for that. I set my alarm wrong and missed half of the first half then had no time to sort it all out I just assumed it would work. I will get the TV browser working then all good. Hopefully like the team these are just teething issues!

[Leics_Pie]

It was a rude awakening for sure.

Love LW, but thought the team selection was wrong from the get-go. First game back in the division against a team that has a lot of big and powerful players, would like to have gone for a bit more solidity at the back. Wanted TAR and Chicksen to start as both give us a bit more defensively than Jones and Nemane. Disappointing that Baldwin wasn’t fit to start either as the starting three have all got bigger weaknesses than him.

Ultimately though, the tone was set going a goal down after 90 seconds. You’d have thought the game plan would have been to be compact and not give them freebie’s in the first 20-25 mins, then look to exert influence.

The first goal was needless. Connell should have stepped across his man and let the ball run out. The mismatch at the corner, both in terms of physicality and positioning was frightening. Then to lose your keeper after 14 mins thanks to yet another poor back pass is pure shooting ourselves in the foot. 11v11 was going to be tough, a man down which gave them an extra player to press with was suicide.

Our game plan is high line, condense the pitch, dominate possession, overwhelm teams. Fair enough, but we saw last season we struggle and make mistakes when team press us consistently. We’ve got to get back to moving the ball more quickly and purposefully. The number of times we checked back/played loose passes was criminal and we started to see it at the end of last season. We can’t afford for it to continue.

Biggest issues for me are whether we have an option with more physicality in midfield when we are being overrun, and we desperately need a centre back or two that have the pace to make recovery runs when teams play behind the high line, as well as a dominant presence who can deal with set pieces and high balls into the box. Without those it’s gonna be tough.

[tommopie8]

Tommopie8 did you attend today? Do you watch regularly? Why doesn't your criticism include Cameron. Rawlo is by no means a world beater but his game has improved under Williams. I don't think that is true of Brindley or Cameron

No I watched it on the stream because I have a daughter who wouldn't want to sit in a car for 5 hours you sanctimonious ****.

I didn't include Cameron as with the exception of the brain farts he can cut it at this level.

[durhampie]

The majority of the opposition last season was so poor, it made us believe that we were far better than we actually are..

[Carlton_Pie]

I do hope we haven't repeated the failures of the relegation season.

Signing good attacking players but not strengthening the defence and having a midfield that can't compete.

[Proactive not Reactive]

It was a rude awakening for sure.

Love LW, but thought the team selection was wrong from the get-go. First game back in the division against a team that has a lot of big and powerful players, would like to have gone for a bit more solidity at the back. Wanted TAR and Chicksen to start as both give us a bit more defensively than Jones and Nemane. Disappointing that Baldwin wasn’t fit to start either as the starting three have all got bigger weaknesses than him.

Ultimately though, the tone was set going a goal down after 90 seconds. You’d have thought the game plan would have been to be compact and not give them freebie’s in the first 20-25 mins, then look to exert influence.

The first goal was needless. Connell should have stepped across his man and let the ball run out. The mismatch at the corner, both in terms of physicality and positioning was frightening. Then to lose your keeper after 14 mins thanks to yet another poor back pass is pure shooting ourselves in the foot. 11v11 was going to be tough, a man down which gave them an extra player to press with was suicide.

Our game plan is high line, condense the pitch, dominate possession, overwhelm teams. Fair enough, but we saw last season we struggle and make mistakes when team press us consistently. We’ve got to get back to moving the ball more quickly and purposefully. The number of times we checked back/played loose passes was criminal and we started to see it at the end of last season. We can’t afford for it to continue.

Biggest issues for me are whether we have an option with more physicality in midfield when we are being overrun, and we desperately need a centre back or two that have the pace to make recovery runs when teams play behind the high line, as well as a dominant presence who can deal with set pieces and high balls into the box. Without those it’s gonna be tough.

I think you are spot on with hindsight but unfortunately LW didn’t have that and with Nemane being one of our best sources of attack last season and Jones looking fitter and stronger there pre-season and also him and the squad believed the hype of the bookies so why would he go defensive away at a team that finished 14th last season although your theory was more solid and bring the more attacking players on when the game was stretched a bit more …perhaps something we will have to do more often this season
We know there are problems at the back and would like to see Baldwin and Tipton in the side probably in a back 4
As worrying for me was Palmer and Bostock ran the midfield last season in virtually every game and rarely gave the ball away but yesterday they were both bullied and gave the ball away a lot.
Hopefully it was mainly down to us having 10 men