Hugill

[millertop]

It's an interesting point about Smith and Hugill, as they are very similar types of player.

Both seem ineffective and almost anonymous when left alone up front, but give them some service and adopt a formation that suits their style of play then they become an absolute menace for defences.

We've seen glimpses of what Hugill can do when the rest of the team gel together around him and now we've bolstered our attacking options I feel there will be more to come. His workrate is phenomenal, just like Smiths was.

So the comparison is fair but my belief is that, as much as Smith will always be a legend to me, Hugill is a Championship version and Smith has his best performances in League One

Exactly

[Walt]

Exactly

Utter tripe
Hugill's control isn't bad but Smudge was exceptional at killing a ball under pressure
Hugill's finishing is poor - Smith's was decent on the deck, exceptional in the air
Both give 100% but I'd be amazed if stats don't show Smudge covering more ground
Smudge had a deceptive turn of pace, Hugill is deceptively slow
Smith was generally better at winning aerial challenges
Smith made more and better quality runs - this helped Smudge be a better provider (he was actually a really good crosser of the ball) whereas Hugill's career stats average one assist per season

Hugill not fit to lace Smudge's boots
Not fit to lace Kelly's either

Are we going to have this ridiculous cart hippophilia when Hugill scores once every 6-7 games?

[DerekMiller]

Utter tripe
Hugill's control isn't bad but Smudge was exceptional at killing a ball under pressure
Hugill's finishing is poor - Smith's was decent on the deck, exceptional in the air
Both give 100% but I'd be amazed if stats don't show Smudge covering more ground
Smudge had a deceptive turn of pace, Hugill is deceptively slow
Smith was generally better at winning aerial challenges
Smith made more and better quality runs - this helped Smudge be a better provider (he was actually a really good crosser of the ball) whereas Hugill's career stats average one assist per season

Hugill not fit to lace Smudge's boots
Not fit to lace Kelly's either

Are we going to have this ridiculous cart hippophilia when Hugill scores once every 6-7 games?

Yes. It's a good feeling

[Walt]

Yes. It's a good feeling

maybe
But what about the 5 or 6 games in between??

[pip_y]

maybe
But what about the 5 or 6 games in between??

Do you read what MT says? Hugill has been carrying an injury for some time. Am I surprised? No with the way he play often getting battered including the push resulting in a yellow card for hand ball. Unbelievable Jeff!

[DerekMiller]

maybe
But what about the 5 or 6 games in between??

Well it'll probably be the same as when Smith was playing in the Championship and had several games between scoring goals. Admiration for the 100% effort and respect for the work he did around the box. Neither are "fox in the box" strikers but both contribute a lot to overall play.

By the way, I don't think people have an issue with you thinking Smith is better than Hugill, your post makes some excellent observations about the (often underappreciated) quality that Smith brought to our team. But you're the one accusing people of talking "utter tripe" and making comments like Hugill not being fit to lace Smith or Kelly's boots. I mean come on, maybe it was tongue in cheek but it came across like something Alan Partridge or David Brent would say!

[Walt]

Well it'll probably be the same as when Smith was playing in the Championship and had several games between scoring goals. Admiration for the 100% effort and respect for the work he did around the box. Neither are "fox in the box" strikers but both contribute a lot to overall play.

By the way, I don't think people have an issue with you thinking Smith is better than Hugill, your post makes some excellent observations about the (often underappreciated) quality that Smith brought to our team. But you're the one accusing people of talking "utter tripe" and making comments like Hugill not being fit to lace Smith or Kelly's boots. I mean come on, maybe it was tongue in cheek but it came across like something Alan Partridge or David Brent would say!

Apologies for 'tripe' but in the context of the flak I've copped on this thread, that was just meant as banter but rebuke accepted - mind you, I'm slightly flattered by the Alan Partridge simile so maybe it is me that's wrong.....
I really don't rate Hugill (in case you couldn't tell) and it frustrates me that our manager does
it frustrates me even more that our manager doesn't seem to rate Georgie
It worries me that our manager rates Nombe to the extent of us paying nearly a million quid
it also worries me that our manager doesn't seem to rate JJ

But I guess that much is already more obvious than a David Brent gag....

[DerekMiller]

Apologies for 'tripe' but in the context of the flak I've copped on this thread, that was just meant as banter but rebuke accepted - mind you, I'm slightly flattered by the Alan Partridge simile so maybe it is me that's wrong.....
I really don't rate Hugill (in case you couldn't tell) and it frustrates me that our manager does
it frustrates me even more that our manager doesn't seem to rate Georgie
It worries me that our manager rates Nombe to the extent of us paying nearly a million quid
it also worries me that our manager doesn't seem to rate JJ

But I guess that much is already more obvious than a David Brent gag....

A Ha!

Hugill certainly has a few shortcomings there's no doubt about that. The one that frustrates me is when he tries to win a free kick unnecessarily, when it would have been easier and better for us to play on. The standout example was in our rearranged game against Cardiff. He broke free and was charging towards the goal, the defender was closing in but still had work to do. It seemed like two more paces he'd be in the box and one on one with the keeper. But then he flung himself to the floor, there was clearly no contact and the ref rightly didn't even consider it. It made no sense at all other than he bottled it and thought we'd have a better chance from the set piece but the dive was laughable.

I just feel we'll see an improvement this season. With players like Green, Fred and Cafu supporting him I believe it'll bring the best out of his game and we'll see a better return. I could be wrong but time will tell.

I love Georgie but I'm not sure if it's a case of Taylor doesn't rate him or he can't stay fit long enough to make a regular stamp on the team. As for JJ, well we've signed him for another year so lets hope we see what he can really do at Carlisle this season. I'm definitely glad we didn't sell him