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    Quote Originally Posted by Townerslovechild View Post
    By the way,what is a "Structured " game ?
    Never heard that before
    jargon word bingo, it is all the fashion to put a series of words into an interview to make it sound good.
    Whatever he means by it, isn't good for his explanation. Basically he said that in structured games (SG) we do well and can get results, in Unstructured games (UG) we cannot. So this states that we only prepare and have the players that can play in SG and our tactics, coaching and players fail in UG. So the obvious questions are
    1. What are you doing about preparing for UG
    2. Isn't it easy for teams to say hey Rotherham can't play UG lets do that
    3. What % of games are UG games to SG, if there were only 10% of UG games, perhaps it isn't a problem

    As I am sure you can tell from the breakdown of the terminology, it is all "male testicles" it is just random words to say in an interview by someone trained to deal with the press and it means nothing, it is a way to confuse and hide the problems, that are actually visible to us all.

    1. Set pieces are poor both attacking and defending, especially when Cafu doesn't play.
    2. A lot of the players bought are gambles ("misfits")
    3. We have spent a lot of wages on players that won't play many games, leaving huge gaps in the matchday squad.
    4. We currently do not have a way of playing away from home (1 year on!!)
    5. We have stopped the high press game (no idea why, might be because of item 6)
    6. Our players are not fit enough (MT says our players were tired on Wednesday, they have just had 2 weeks off playing, previously he has said our players are tired at the latter stages of games)
    7. The level of injuries and the time to recover, indicates a deep rooted underlying problem at the club.
    8. Our best players are the ones that were here before (Viking, Odofin, Humpreys, Rathbone, Fergie, Lindsay (MT mentioned him) and even Bramall)

    I am sure others have things they can spot as well, that is just my list my opinion based on listening to what is said and watching nearly every game (admittedly remotely due to where I live)
    Last edited by Derbymiller; 22-09-2023 at 09:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derbymiller View Post
    jargon word bingo, it is all the fashion to put a series of words into an interview to make it sound good.
    Whatever he means by it, isn't good for his explanation. Basically he said that in structured games (SG) we do well and can get results, in Unstructured games (UG) we cannot. So this states that we only prepare and have the players that can play in SG and our tactics, coaching and players fail in UG. So the obvious questions are
    1. What are you doing about preparing for UG
    2. Isn't it easy for teams to say hey Rotherham can't play UG lets do that
    3. What % of games are UG games to SG, if there were only 10% of UG games, perhaps it isn't a problem
    Isn't he just saying that in the early part of the season, as the team forms and faces different formations, that we seem to do well against ST and not well against UT. And therefore the obvious continuation that I think is too obvious for him to need to say it, is that we have to adjust the team going forward to perform better in adapting between ST and UT. I don't think he's concluding that this state of affairs is simply being accepted by him and will remain that way so teams can all play unstructured and roll us over.

    Surely he's just pointing out an emerging problem that he has to now deal with. You seem to present it as if he's saying that's all we can do and he's accepted that we're stuck with it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragingpup View Post
    Isn't he just saying that in the early part of the season, as the team forms and faces different formations, that we seem to do well against ST and not well against UT. And therefore the obvious continuation that I think is too obvious for him to need to say it, is that we have to adjust the team going forward to perform better in adapting between ST and UT. I don't think he's concluding that this state of affairs is simply being accepted by him and will remain that way so teams can all play unstructured and roll us over.

    Surely he's just pointing out an emerging problem that he has to now deal with. You seem to present it as if he's saying that's all we can do and he's accepted that we're stuck with it!
    You could be right, I am just saying it as I see it, it is just an opinion. At the moment our away performances are absolutely the worst we have seen over a few games in a long time. A lot on here are banking on the home form as I have already printed out, that is still only 31 points as we have taken 4 points from 3 games which is 1.33/game multiply that out and you get 31 points. So we have to improve massively to survive. What are few are asking is what have the happy gang seen that we haven’t to make you believe that will happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derbymiller View Post
    You could be right, I am just saying it as I see it, it is just an opinion. At the moment our away performances are absolutely the worst we have seen over a few games in a long time. A lot on here are banking on the home form as I have already printed out, that is still only 31 points as we have taken 4 points from 3 games which is 1.33/game multiply that out and you get 31 points. So we have to improve massively to survive. What are few are asking is what have the happy gang seen that we haven’t to make you believe that will happen?
    Defensive with the 'just an opinion' and then end by name calling others who also just have an opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MillersTime View Post
    Defensive with the 'just an opinion' and then end by name calling others who also just have an opinion.
    Happy gang isn’t name calling, my god how pathetic. Instead of dealing with the points people raise or questions asked, let’s do the classic and accuse people of calling people names, to deflect away from the issue. If it offends you so much to be referred to as someone that is happy and in a group of others labelled a gang, then I apologise to you. I am sure you can have a really interesting discussion about it with your therapist next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derbymiller View Post
    Happy gang isn’t name calling, my god how pathetic. Instead of dealing with the points people raise or questions asked, let’s do the classic and accuse people of calling people names, to deflect away from the issue. If it offends you so much to be referred to as someone that is happy and in a group of others labelled a gang, then I apologise to you. I am sure you can have a really interesting discussion about it with your therapist next week.
    I was unaware of the honour that you had bestowed upon me, in being part of this 'happy gang'. You should really publish a members list for clarity, some of us clearly don't know we are part of it.

    Identifying it as name calling doesn't deflect anything away. Unfortunately, for you, that doesn't mean it is untrue. It patently is. We can have the discussion on whatever topic you like, but both things can be true.

    Again, ending with an inference that I need psychological support, when many people unfortunately actually do, is indicative of your lack of calmness and clarity. Very needless indeed.

    I welcome your reply, but please, as I have done, use paragraphs. Be mindful of the reader, we don't enjoy a huge blob of words. Take a second, break up your sentences, breathe. Clarity dear boy, clarity and calmness. No need to eagerly post in haste, to the detriment of other people's eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derbymiller View Post
    8. Our best players are the ones that were here before (Viking, Odofin, Humpreys, Rathbone, Fergie, Lindsay (MT mentioned him) and even Bramall)
    Some of our worse players were here before, its called inheriting a squad with players on more than a 1 year deal. It takes a few years to have a squad that is fully signed by the the current manager in charge.

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