Ross Coonty

[islaydarkblue]

100% agree with this, that was a huge faux pas by the Dee4Life board and increased the distance between them and Nelms. Right up there with Forbes getting back on the board but the election of Islay was actually a choice by them whereas Forbes engineered his return.

Dee4life were having contact with Nelms when I was a Co-opted Director of Dee4life.
They still managed to get a reply from him signed ‘Dundee Football Club Ltd’ on 7th December 2022.
The letter did not reject the nomination of Kenny Valentine as the Dee4life primary representative. The letter stated that the nomination was a Hostile Act which would be dealt with the terms of the Club’s Articles of Incorporation (sic) and the rules of the regulatory bodies.
A majority of Dee4life directors (not me) wanted a meeting with John Nelms to find out where we were playing our home games next season instead of asking John Nelms to contact the regulatory bodies regarding Kenny Valentine’s nomination as a director of Dundee Football Club Limited.
In my opinion that was a very bad move especially as Nelms subsequently told the DSA thst we would be playing our home games at Dens Park next season.

[Deeranged]

Dee4life were having contact with Nelms when I was a Co-opted Director of Dee4life.

And then for some inexplicable reason contact stopped?

[noahrab]

On the contrary it proves that there was a problem with the drainage of the pitch three years ago and it is still a problem unless you cannot work that out!!

Explain why that picture ‘proves’ there is still a problem.

Pay careful attention to the question.

[BCram]

Think supporters clubs are a great idea. DSA as an umbrella organisation also seems to me to be worthwhile.

[Deeranged]

Think supporters clubs are a great idea. DSA as an umbrella organisation also seems to me to be worthwhile.

Supporters' clubs have their place for people who want and need them - i.e. for people who want or need to travel to away games by bus or for people who want to have a place to drink before or after a home game; if that club has or is attached to licensed premises of course. For those of us who don't travel to away games by bus, or who don't generally drink before or after a game, they're pointless and the DSA does not represent me or the vast majority of fans that are not members of affiliated clubs.

[BCram]

Maybe more supporters could be persuaded to come to games if the supporters' clubs could expand? Any positive suggestions to help them recruit more members?

[Returnofrros]

Maybe more supporters could be persuaded to come to games if the supporters' clubs could expand? Any positive suggestions to help them recruit more members?

People moan aboot a tenner a year for membership.

Plus from what I've seen the more randoms on a bus the more hassle for those running it.

I don't go to all the away games, st m and st j so far and will go to Aberdeen but I feel it's reasonable value and easy to book.

[Deeranged]

Maybe more supporters could be persuaded to come to games if the supporters' clubs could expand? Any positive suggestions to help them recruit more members?

People who feel the need to join clubs and associations are pretty low down Maslow's Heirarchy of needs, mostly they'll lie around the 'safety' and 'belonging and love' levels, they feel the need to belong / feel part of something. They're happy to be guided and to allow others to make plans for them.

I hope the more mature / well rounded fan will be higher up the heirarchy and won't have these needs - typically around the 'cognitive', 'aesthetic' or self actualization' levels where they can make their own plans / decisions and can run their own lives without the need for anyone to represent them. These fans don't need, and are unlikely to want, to join any supporters' club.

[BCram]

People who feel the need to join clubs and associations are pretty low down Maslow's Heirarchy of needs, mostly they'll lie around the 'safety' and 'belonging and love' levels, they feel the need to belong / feel part of something. They're happy to be guided and to allow others to make plans for them.

I hope the more mature / well rounded fan will be higher up the heirarchy and won't have these needs - typically around the 'cognitive', 'aesthetic' or self actualization' levels where they can make their own plans / decisions and can run their own lives without the need for anyone to represent them. These fans don't need, and are unlikely to want, to join any supporters' club.

But despite being taught in virtually every business and psychology degree, amongst psychologists, Maslow Hierarchy of Needs is widely discredited¹.*It is viewed as unscientific, drawing from a biased and unreliable sample and his data analysis is suspect to say the least. Deeranged, Thank you for your comment. I copied the critique of Maslow Hierachy of Need from the Internet. Here are the basic categories, I think the other Dundee Mad posters might like to learn them.

From the bottom of the hierarchy upwards, the needs are:*physiological, safety, love and belonging, esteem and self- actualization. This five-stage model can be divided into deficiency needs and growth needs.

[BCram]

Not much to do on a miserable wet Sunday!!