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  1. #41
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    The 'Barnsley way' is total ballax. It ent existed. Conway just came out with some bullshyte about high press style after we beat Oxford 4-0 on the opening day of the 18/19 season.

    Every head coach since hasn't followed suit. Each head coach since, has assessed his players and worked out what he thinks is best in order to get results. Even Duff last season didn't use high press as much as people think. A lot of the time our players dropped off. We specifically chose when to use high press tactics under Duff.

    Ismaels use of the high press was constant. The objective being to condense the pitch and gain territorial advantage by pushing the opposition back. We played no passing football at all under Val.

    Struber was different also putting the emphasis on creating a solid shape for the team and playing the ball through midfield and much like Duff, choosing when or not to high press during a game.

    Stendel again was different. We high pressed under Stendel with the emphasis on getting the ball forwards quickly.


    Now that's a run down of the different styles of our head coaches in the last 5 years with Schopp and Asbaghi left out because we know of Conways interference.

    Where are the similarities in the styles of Duff, Ismael, Struber and Stendel?

    The so called blue print is what Nudger sez, 'the barnsley way' but I've not seen evidence of any continuity from Stendel onwards.

    The current head coach is still feeling his way in and deciding which formation and style of play suits his squad the best.

    Each of our head coaches will have this head ache because our turnover of players is so big, we are left with no long term presence within the playing squad and a fresh canvas each season on which to try and paint a masterpiece. It's no wonder we are in Division 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by pass_and_move View Post
    The 'Barnsley way' is total ballax. It ent existed. Conway just came out with some bullshyte about high press style after we beat Oxford 4-0 on the opening day of the 18/19 season.

    Every head coach since hasn't followed suit. Each head coach since, has assessed his players and worked out what he thinks is best in order to get results. Even Duff last season didn't use high press as much as people think. A lot of the time our players dropped off. We specifically chose when to use high press tactics under Duff.

    Ismaels use of the high press was constant. The objective being to condense the pitch and gain territorial advantage by pushing the opposition back. We played no passing football at all under Val.

    Struber was different also putting the emphasis on creating a solid shape for the team and playing the ball through midfield and much like Duff, choosing when or not to high press during a game.

    Stendel again was different. We high pressed under Stendel with the emphasis on getting the ball forwards quickly.


    Now that's a run down of the different styles of our head coaches in the last 5 years with Schopp and Asbaghi left out because we know of Conways interference.

    Where are the similarities in the styles of Duff, Ismael, Struber and Stendel?

    The so called blue print is what Nudger sez, 'the barnsley way' but I've not seen evidence of any continuity from Stendel onwards.

    The current head coach is still feeling his way in and deciding which formation and style of play suits his squad the best.

    Each of our head coaches will have this head ache because our turnover of players is so big, we are left with no long term presence within the playing squad and a fresh canvas each season on which to try and paint a masterpiece. It's no wonder we are in Division 3
    Not to mention Stendel played 4-4-2 , Struber 3-5-1-2 , Val 3-4-3 and Duff 3-5-2 .

    This Barnsley aint half flexible Pass !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by animallittle3 View Post
    Where you and I differ is that I don't take the club's word as the be and end all .

    I look at the evidence and the evidence says there's is no link between recruitment and the so called Barnsley Way .

    Now you can post ridiculous YouTube videos until the cows come home to support your view but I'll stick to the evidence thanks .

    A scatter gun recruitment policy producing a patchwork quilt of players giving a HC a problem finding a consistent winning hand and formation .
    Are you sure it’s Barnsley Football Club you are following ???
    Because you are clearly not watching (or taking notice) of what has happened and is happening at the club.

    The Barnsley Way ……
    Not invented by Barnsley - it came from European football (I think).
    And has been adopted by UK clubs such as Liverpool.

    However …
    Patrick spoke about it.
    Every CEO since Gaultier has spoken about it.
    Every head coach from Morais (other than Schopp and Ashbagi) has adopted it.

    Why do we only play 343 or 352 system and never play 442 or 4141 or 541 or any other formation other than 343 or 352 ???
    Why do we play wingbacks - and not wingers ???
    Why do we constantly play 3 centre backs ???
    Why do we only sign central defenders that not only can defend but also can run forward quickly with the ball and can pass ???
    Why do we have strikers that press as one and can defend and tackle ???
    Why do we only sign goalkeepers that are quick over the grass and can pass the ball ???

    These are examples of what the recruitment team are looking for.
    They don’t just rock up and decide that a player looks ok and will do !!!

    The next time there is an opportunity to meet people from the club - go and meet them.
    Ask them.
    I’m sure they would be happy to inform you or anyone else that there is a system of playing at Barnsley and they have been telling us about it for years.

    The surprise is - that someone from the club needs to explain it again - it’s as clear as the nose on your face - you only had to watch Barnsley play over the last few seasons.

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    Its been a good week for the reds, we can analyse & pick holes in things as much as we like as we all have our different opinions but one thing for certain that cannot be argued with is the way we have bounced back from a poor result against Blackpool , we have been on the road for 2 games , we have picked up 6 points , we have scored 5 goals & we have conceded nil , they are facts & cannot be argued against, I also think the timing of the two results could not have been better , we now go into a 2 week break on the back of a great week & have moved up to third in the table & we have now got two weeks on the training ground & in the recovery rooms to prepare ourselves for the forthcoming games , there should be a feel good factor at the club & a confidence amongst the ranks , lets enjoy the current situation because we all know how quickly things can change .

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    Good post Shads.

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    Well said Shads, you just can’t beat “the feel good factor”

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    Good shout that Shads.

    2 weeks to sort out the shambles of our home form. Ditch the tip tap across the back 3 and get into the opposition faces.

    However, we’re in the mix of the top 6 and I didn’t expect that at this stage. Last seasons team would have battered the current lot despite the overlap of some players. Improvement needed.

    2 weeks to get Connell going is a good thing.

    Onwards and upwards

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    It’s definitely feel good. But to be fair we have been playing the weakest teams away lately.
    Had we gone away to Peterborough, Bolton and Portsmouth within the last 5 away and won them all, Id be ecstatic……… these games are to come……without looking, are they coming in succession?

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    This ten game spell will be the deciding time in our season. See if we pick up away wins here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pass_and_move View Post
    The 'Barnsley way' is total ballax. It ent existed. Conway just came out with some bullshyte about high press style after we beat Oxford 4-0 on the opening day of the 18/19 season.

    Every head coach since hasn't followed suit. Each head coach since, has assessed his players and worked out what he thinks is best in order to get results. Even Duff last season didn't use high press as much as people think. A lot of the time our players dropped off. We specifically chose when to use high press tactics under Duff.

    Ismaels use of the high press was constant. The objective being to condense the pitch and gain territorial advantage by pushing the opposition back. We played no passing football at all under Val.

    Struber was different also putting the emphasis on creating a solid shape for the team and playing the ball through midfield and much like Duff, choosing when or not to high press during a game.

    Stendel again was different. We high pressed under Stendel with the emphasis on getting the ball forwards quickly.


    Now that's a run down of the different styles of our head coaches in the last 5 years with Schopp and Asbaghi left out because we know of Conways interference.

    Where are the similarities in the styles of Duff, Ismael, Struber and Stendel?

    The so called blue print is what Nudger sez, 'the barnsley way' but I've not seen evidence of any continuity from Stendel onwards.

    The current head coach is still feeling his way in and deciding which formation and style of play suits his squad the best.

    Each of our head coaches will have this head ache because our turnover of players is so big, we are left with no long term presence within the playing squad and a fresh canvas each season on which to try and paint a masterpiece. It's no wonder we are in Division 3
    Spot on Pass.

    The "Barnsley Style" is just the tactics this year's Head Coach decides to play most often in most games.

    Next season's Head Coach could play anything from Ismael's hoofball to Schopp's tippy tappy. It's a matter of getting the best out of the cards the owners have dealt. Those that do that well such as Ismael and Duff move on to better things after a season, those that fail are sacked after a season or earlier. There is not the continuity or consistency to develop anything like a recognisable "Barnsley Style".
    Last edited by SBRed48; 09-10-2023 at 06:33 AM.

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