O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[Magpies1959]

EP tell me where I am so naive, please do not tell me they go over tho whichever country and demand fish and chips 🤣

[Elite_Pie]

EP tell me where I am so naive, please do not tell me they go over tho whichever country and demand fish and chips 🤣

That's close to the mark, there are a number of communities in Spain, Portugal and some other European countries that have become 'Little Britain'. The Brits who settle there want the sunshine and lifestyle, but have no intention of learning the language or integrating. I doubt they will feature much on GB News, so you will probably be unaware of them.

[DomdomPie]

That's close to the mark, there are a number of communities in Spain, Portugal and some other European countries that have become 'Little Britain'. The Brits who settle there want the sunshine and lifestyle, but have no intention of learning the language or integrating. I doubt they will feature much on GB News, so you will probably be unaware of them.

This is very true. I personally know a retired British couple who have lived in southern Spain for 20 years and the wife still can't speak any Spanish. They generally interact with expats and the husband knows just enough to order food in a restaurant etc. They listen to a local English language radio station and watch ITV and BBC shows exclusively. It's like they're on an extended holiday. I don't begrudge them that life at all but it's definitely not an unusual occurrence.

[jackal2]

There are a number of communities in Spain, Portugal and some other European countries that have become 'Little Britain'. The Brits who settle there want the sunshine and lifestyle, but have no intention of learning the language or integrating.

That happens with minority communities in Britain too. Consciously or subconsciously they establish their own community enclaves which often grow to have a distinct resemblance to the place from which they originated. Obviously not every individual or family does that, in the same way that some Brits who go abroad embrace their new environment and integrate very willingly into it, but for many communities who are in a minority the tendency is to associate with and indeed re-create what seems safest and most familiar. Whether that's multiculturalism working well or badly boils down to a matter of opinion, but it's a definite trait of human nature.

[Elite_Pie]

That happens with minority communities in Britain too.

I wouldn't dispute that for a second, but my reply was in response to Magpies1959 claiming:

"Generally, 'us Brits', emigrate to countries where they are happy to fit in with that country's rules and traditions".

That's total bollox, and follows the right wing doctrine that 'us Brits are better than them'.

[jackal2]

I wouldn't dispute that for a second, but my reply was in response to Magpies1959 claiming:

"Generally, 'us Brits', emigrate to countries where they are happy to fit in with that country's rules and traditions".

That's total bollox, and follows the right wing doctrine that 'us Brits are better than them'.

'Us Brits are better than them' certainly isn't the right-wing doctrine I follow.

'Us Brits are different from the French, Spanish or whatever other nation you choose to name', absolutely, but not 'better' or 'worse'. Even countries that tend to get simplistically lumped together in the minds of others - say Spain and Portugal - are very assertive about their differences and their own identity.

With the possible exception of football hooligans and some visiting party islands, I'd say most Brits who travel abroad respect the laws and rules of the places they visit or go to live, and I'm not sure they are generally disrespectful to the traditions either, but certainly they form their own 'Ex-Pat' communities, such is the pack nature of human beings.

[Elite_Pie]

With the possible exception of football hooligans and some visiting party islands, I'd say most Brits who travel abroad respect the laws and rules of the places they visit or go to live.

I totally agree with that, the vast majority of Brits who go abroad are friendly and respectful. The problem is the size of the minority who are the opposite. It's just that our minority with no respect seems bigger than any other country. I can honestly say that whenever I have seen trouble and bad behaviour abroad it's caused by Brits more often than not.

[Elite_Pie]

So we're back to by-elections tomorrow in two historically very safe Tory seats. One because the utterly obnoxious Nadine Dorries has finally quit, and one because Chris 'Bottom' Pincher couldn't control his hands after a few drinks. It looks likely that the Tories will hold Mid Bedfordshire with a hugely reduced majority, because Labour and LibDems decided to fight it rather than one of them stand down and give the other an easy win which is disappointing for ABTT (Anyone But The Tories) supporters like me. Tamworth is a straight fight between Tories and Labour, and Labour need to win this one if they want power next year.

It will be interesting to see if the polls have got it right or wrong.