Jimmy & Cloughie mural.

[upthemaggies]

I get both sides of this argument. Personally, I'd prefer no mural at all rather than include anything to do with Fword. We have only got ourselves to blame though for not maintaining the balance of power of the first 113 years being in a two club city (Well, more than two in the very early days maybe but that's another story).

We had enough warning with 1959 how things could go, then messed up again in the 1970s by allowing Sirrrel to go and then promoting the coach rather than getting a proper manager in to get us back up before them. We also chucked away another opportunity when they were struggling in tier 2/3 for many years by somehow managing to be even worse. Will we ever get another chance?

[durhampie]

I honestly don’t have an issue with this mural.

The navigation is used by both teams, and away fans. I think to show Clough and Sirrel together is a very nice thought. Both great managers for the Nottingham (and Nottinghamshire) teams.

This isn’t the club doing this, it’s a Nottingham company, promoting two successful individuals. They don’t have to do this. It could just be a white wall.

I’m in favour.

If it were the club, I’d think differently.

They were good friends, so i think it a nice gesture to have them together...

[Glad2BeAPie]

If the owner of the Navi us involved, I'm surprised it's not the Forest Squad with the European cup

[upthemaggies]

If the owner of the Navi us involved, I'm surprised it's not the Forest Squad with the European cup

It could have been worse.

It's up to us as a club to put this right in the long term but if we carry on with this notion that we're Fword's "little brother", eternally grateful for the scraps they throw our way (youth/reserve players) then I have very little hope. You have to WANT to compete with them, which we used to do, but I just don't get the sense we have anywhere near enough of the desire to do that in the fan base now, which is of course a by product of the decline. You can't make fans feel something they don't when they've had no experience of a rivalry, plus we've got a lot older fans now rationalising the current situation with the "I wouldn't want to be in the plastic money obsessed Premier League anyway" attitude.
It's going to take us getting back into tier 2 and staying in it to even begin to address this problem for real.

[SwalePie]

It could have been worse.

It's up to us as a club to put this right in the long term but if we carry on with this notion that we're Fword's "little brother", eternally grateful for the scraps they throw our way (youth/reserve players) then I have very little hope. You have to WANT to compete with them, which we used to do, but I just don't get the sense we have anywhere near enough of the desire to do that in the fan base now, which is of course a by product of the decline. You can't make fans feel something they don't when they've had no experience of a rivalry, plus we've got a lot older fans now rationalising the current situation with the "I wouldn't want to be in the plastic money obsessed Premier League anyway" attitude.
It's going to take us getting back into tier 2 and staying in it to even begin to address this problem for real.

Yep. If the Reedtz Bros. can get us back to the second division we'd be a genuine threat to them once more and the patronising 'little brother' nonsense their fans say about their older brother would evaporate very quickly. Plus they'd be quite likely to be in the Championship with us by then too!

[countygump]

Yep. If the Reedtz Bros. can get us back to the second division we'd be a genuine threat to them once more and the patronising 'little brother' nonsense their fans say about their older brother would evaporate very quickly. Plus they'd be quite likely to be in the Championship with us by then too!

Is it painted as the original post said or is it just a projection? Or is it a projection in lieu of a painting? What do the owners of said business/house think about it and does that make them lieu tenants?

[drillerpie]

I honestly don’t have an issue with this mural.

The navigation is used by both teams, and away fans. I think to show Clough and Sirrel together is a very nice thought. Both great managers for the Nottingham (and Nottinghamshire) teams.

This isn’t the club doing this, it’s a Nottingham company, promoting two successful individuals. They don’t have to do this. It could just be a white wall.

I’m in favour.

If it were the club, I’d think differently.

Me too. I think it's a nice idea.

[marky]

It could have been worse.

It's up to us as a club to put this right in the long term but if we carry on with this notion that we're Fword's "little brother", eternally grateful for the scraps they throw our way (youth/reserve players) then I have very little hope. You have to WANT to compete with them, which we used to do, but I just don't get the sense we have anywhere near enough of the desire to do that in the fan base now, which is of course a by product of the decline. You can't make fans feel something they don't when they've had no experience of a rivalry, plus we've got a lot older fans now rationalising the current situation with the "I wouldn't want to be in the plastic money obsessed Premier League anyway" attitude.
It's going to take us getting back into tier 2 and staying in it to even begin to address this problem for real.

Too many of our fans are scared to say that there is rivalry between Notts County and Forest, yes I get it's nowhere near the levels of other cities but how can we not be rivals we're only separated by a river.

[SwalePie]

Well, to be fair, I've just seen the result posted on Twitter with details of the project to create it and I have to say I approve, despite my earlier misgivings regarding BC being on the wrong side of the Trent. I think it looks great.

https://x.com/magpies_history/status/1714258299854508513?s=20

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Personally I think it looks fantastic and is a great tribute to two fantastic managers and servants to this great city..!