O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[BigFatPie]

Deflection, deflection, a much used Labour tactic, unfortunately it will not work. I am loving the comedy show tonight on GB News, get the popcorn out.

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Westminster voting intention

📈27pt Labour lead

🌹 Lab 46% (+2)
🌳 Con 19% (-4)
🔶 Lib Dem 9% (-1)
➡️ Reform 10% (+2)
🌍 Greens 8% (+1)
🎗️ SNP 5% (+1)

Via @FindoutnowUK
2,198 GB adults, 13-14 Nov

[Kent Magpie]

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Westminster voting intention

27pt Labour lead

 Lab 46% (+2)
 Con 19% (-4)
 Lib Dem 9% (-1)
➡️ Reform 10% (+2)
 Greens 8% (+1)
️ SNP 5% (+1)

Via @FindoutnowUK
2,198 GB adults, 13-14 Nov

Interesting.... The SNP at the bottom of that pile is likely to get more seats than any of the above except Labour and Tory who are likely to be very close despite the large gap in the poll. It seems to me that this demonstrates all that is wrong with our voting system... mind you the alternative is likely to give a disproportionate voice to the likes of Reform.

[Newish Pie]

Interesting.... The SNP at the bottom of that pile is likely to get more seats than any of the above except Labour and Tory who are likely to be very close despite the large gap in the poll. It seems to me that this demonstrates all that is wrong with our voting system... mind you the alternative is likely to give a disproportionate voice to the likes of Reform.

Absolutely agree with the need to change the voting system. So-called 'Reform' are a mix of fruitcakes and bigots (some closeted, some not so much), but like the Kippers before them, they're entitled to fair representation of their views the same as everyone else. It's kind of inevitable that there's going to be some hard right party in some form, the only question is what form it takes and how far right it goes.

A good point someone once made was that UKIP was probably one of the most moderate hard right parties in Europe, and that harder right versions were possible, like the BNP briefly threatened. I know less about Reform, but I suspect that most of the hard right headbangers feel comfortable enough in the Tory party.

[Kent Magpie]

Absolutely agree with the need to change the voting system. So-called 'Reform' are a mix of fruitcakes and bigots (some closeted, some not so much), but like the Kippers before them, they're entitled to fair representation of their views the same as everyone else. It's kind of inevitable that there's going to be some hard right party in some form, the only question is what form it takes and how far right it goes.

A good point someone once made was that UKIP was probably one of the most moderate hard right parties in Europe, and that harder right versions were possible, like the BNP briefly threatened. I know less about Reform, but I suspect that most of the hard right headbangers feel comfortable enough in the Tory party.

I agree with all that.

[Elite_Pie]

*** COVID INQUIRY SHOCKER ***

Boris Johnson caught telling the truth

"The extract says Johnson "looked broken - head in hands a lot", and quotes the PM saying "We are too sh!t to get our act together".

[BigFatPie]

*** COVID INQUIRY SHOCKER ***

Boris Johnson caught telling the truth

"The extract says Johnson "looked broken - head in hands a lot", and quotes the PM saying "We are too sh!t to get our act together".

If there was a chance that Johnson and Sunak might end up where they belong, in jail, there’s no way they’d be having an enquiry.

Nevertheless it’s nice to have confirmed what anyone with at least half a brain already knew. These people aren’t fit to run a raffle.

[magpie_mania]

If there was a chance that Johnson and Sunak might end up where they belong, in jail, there’s no way they’d be having an enquiry.

Nevertheless it’s nice to have confirmed what anyone with at least half a brain already knew. These people aren’t fit to run a raffle.

It's only to see what we can learn in case of a future event.

Johnson must have something about him to make his supporters so loyal. It's been embarrassing how they were acting.

Not sure anyone has come out of it well.

[countygump]

I agree with all that.

I voted for PR in 2011, I think I was the only one.

[applepie2]

I voted for PR in 2011, I think I was the only one.

You didn’t. AV is not proportional.

[Kent Magpie]

I voted for PR in 2011, I think I was the only one.

No..there were at least 2 of us then!