Careless Tories!

[Andy_Faber]

There are faults on both sides. Both sides need to own up to their faults and eradicate those faults rather than keep on their current path of wanting to eradicate each other.

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Wouldn't that be great...

I got into a rare conversation with my daughter on this subject on Sunday and she gave me a view into the Tik Tok world. It seems that most tiktokers that have a view are horrendously ill-informed on the subject including being unaware of The Holocaust, the creation of Israel, and even that Jews and Christians are not the same

[ramAnag]

Wouldn't that be great...

I got into a rare conversation with my daughter on this subject on Sunday and she gave me a view into the Tik Tok world. It seems that most tiktokers that have a view are horrendously ill-informed on the subject including being unaware of The Holocaust, the creation of Israel, and even that Jews and Christians are not the same

I am equally ignorant of the ‘Tik Tok world’. What do you regard as the Tik Tok demographic?

[Andy_Faber]

I am equally ignorant of the ‘Tik Tok world’. What do you regard as the Tik Tok demographic?

in terms of age, 70% under 35

Edit, that's not my estimate, its pretty widely accepted =/- a few years/percent

[Andy_Faber]

in terms of age, 70% under 35

Edit, that's not my estimate, its pretty widely accepted =/- a few years/percent

The level of misinformation is astounding

[MadAmster]

Wouldn't that be great...

I got into a rare conversation with my daughter on this subject on Sunday and she gave me a view into the Tik Tok world. It seems that most tiktokers that have a view are horrendously ill-informed on the subject including being unaware of The Holocaust, the creation of Israel, and even that Jews and Christians are not the same

Indeed. They are more likely to think that the Holocaust is no more than a hoax according to the alternative thinkers aka conspeorists who refer to it as the Holohoax.

[Andy_Faber]

Indeed. They are more likely to think that the Holocaust is no more than a hoax according to the alternative thinkers aka conspeorists who refer to it as the Holohoax.

Drives me mad MA. We on here have our differences, including on this subject, but we respect (I think!) our differences when they are founded on history, recent or otherwise, as we know it

[MadAmster]

Drives me mad MA. We on here have our differences, including on this subject, but we respect (I think!) our differences when they are founded on history, recent or otherwise, as we know it

Spot on Andy.

[swaledale]

Indeed. They are more likely to think that the Holocaust is no more than a hoax according to the alternative thinkers aka conspeorists who refer to it as the Holohoax.

Mm I'm very wary of such broad generalisation, there are more than a few in the 50-65 age bracket who seem misinformed on these and other matters. I've met many a member of the so called tik tok generation who are very well informed on what's been happening and quite few Jewish people who regard what's happening and the present right wing Israeli government as a disaster for Israel and its future. Both the failure to adequately defend against the atrocity, the role of the current Israeli president in encouraging HAMS's control in Gaza in the past and his ham fisted and genocidal reaction to what has happened.

[MadAmster]

Mm I'm very wary of such broad generalisation, there are more than a few in the 50-65 age bracket who seem misinformed on these and other matters. I've met many a member of the so called tik tok generation who are very well informed on what's been happening and quite few Jewish people who regard what's happening and the present right wing Israeli government as a disaster for Israel and its future. Both the failure to adequately defend against the atrocity, the role of the current Israeli president in encouraging HAMS's control in Gaza in the past and his ham fisted and genocidal reaction to what has happened.

Let's accept, for sake of discussion, that Israel's current "strategy" succeeds and they take out most, maybe all, of Hamas. It won't end there. There are more than a million minors in Gaza. Those in the North were told to move to the South. Many did. The North got bombed and >10K have been killed so far including >4K kids. The number of injured kids is, as far as I know, unknown. Now they've told those who moved South to move to "the known shelters" and it appears they don't know where those shelters are. The South will get razed to the ground. I think it's very likely that many of the >1M kids will hate Israel now, even they didn't previously. 10 years down the road, in the event of Hamas being wiped out today, Hamas 2.0 will rise and we'll see this slaughter all over again. Not a comforting prospect.