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Thread: ❔Score, scorers and attendance predictions v Walsall [H] 09.12.2023 [EFL L2]

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    Quote Originally Posted by magpie_mania View Post
    Your answer 'Yes, that's exactly what I think it is'. Are they then showing displeasure that they were disappointed in previous games, as the game hasn't even started? I'd rather start a game with a clean sheet for the players and leave any anger and disappointment until the final whistle, depending on the result.
    That would be my guess, although as I said I haven't heard anyone boo any of our players before a game at Notts. I also try very hard to start with a clean sheet when doing the player ratings, and base it entirely on what I see in that game. For what it's worth, I wasn't one of those who booed after the final whistle on Saturday even though I thought we were awful.

    I only occasionally watch England these days, but it's a bit different because club rivalries might come into play.

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    There's a pantomime element to it, also group mentality singling out individuals in the 'out-group' as a bonding exercise and - what was always accepted as a core element of the experience until recently - blokes letting off steam from the pressure of work and home that had built up Monday-Friday.

    You can't have heroes without villains, joy without pain and so on. If we want genuine passion in the game and a level of emotion that's meaningful, then you can't be selective about it. It's two sides of the same coin.

    The way things are going though, English football supporters likely will eventually come to resemble what we saw with the stage managed enthusiasm in sections of the crowd for the host nation at the last World Cup and for North Korea when they were last in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
    There's a pantomime element to it, also group mentality singling out individuals in the 'out-group' as a bonding exercise and - what was always accepted as a core element of the experience until recently - blokes letting off steam from the pressure of work and home that had built up Monday-Friday.

    You can't have heroes without villains, joy without pain and so on. If we want genuine passion in the game and a level of emotion that's meaningful, then you can't be selective about it. It's two sides of the same coin.

    The way things are going though, English football supporters likely will eventually come to resemble what we saw with the stage managed enthusiasm in sections of the crowd for the host nation at the last World Cup and for North Korea when they were last in it.
    'You can't have heroes without villains,'

    I agree. Just that I see it that Notts are the heroes and the opposition are the villains!

    'group mentality singling out individuals in the 'out-group' as a bonding exercise' - probably one of the best definitions of bullying that I have ever read!

    'The way things are going though, English football supporters likely will eventually come to resemble what we saw with the stage managed enthusiasm in sections of the crowd for the host nation at the last World Cup and for North Korea when they were last in it' - don't be daft!

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