Seriously I wonder if it hadn't have been for the Soutter windfall would we have been seeing them in Administration by now? You can argue, rightly I reckon, that it was prudent and good business adding in the sell on clause but there was a definite element of good fortune too. We have tended to be the opposite i.e. not prudent enough, sensible business/money orientated enough in our transfer dealings in the past but we have also not had the good fortune that they have had if not just bad luck at times. Khizanishvili sale/non sale and the Caulker bid are just two instances that come to mind.