Cameron as left back? 442

[hissingdwarf]

Not that I can see us changing shape or formation anytime soon, we all sit there and think what would we do differently.

Would a 442 or 4411 help us solidify the back line and still create chances?

By my reckoning, Macari could play RB without too much stress.
Baldwin and Warner in the middle.
Cameron at left back is my concern. Has he got the legs for it and the concentration? I’m not his biggest fan anyways, but his lack of concentration, his throwing himself to the floor antics and his lack of defensive nouse worry me.

If Chicksen was fit, I suppose he could come in?

Stone
Macari Baldwin Warner Cameron

Robertson as the anchor midfielder to put his foot in (which he did more and more at the weekend) and a creative passer next to him. On current form Bostock and Crawley are a no for me, leaving us with untested Colkett. (No idea about the guy until we’ve seen him a few times. Is he even match fit?)
Leave JJ and Nemane to be proper wingers.

Nemane Robertson Colkett Jones

Front pairing of Macca and Didzy, both rotating off each other with the dropping back etc…

Macca Didzy.


Do we lose too much creativity wise in the middle?
Would Nemane and JJ prosper without so many defensive duties, including throw ins?
Would the defence stand up better with a deeper line of 4?
Cameron and the 2nd midfielder slot are the worries. Bostock should hold that place or Crawley, but they’re both badly out of form.

[jackal2]

I'd be very surprised if the new manager adopted a 4-4-2. I think the most that might happen, if results were iffy, is a change away from a back three towards a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-3-3.

Regarding Kyle Cameron, I think he's a good footballer but not a natural defender, so I'm not sure he would be any stronger at left-back than at centre-half. He does indeed lose concentration too often, and he sees danger far too late, which is why he has to use panic measures or claiming fake fouls to get himself out of trouble. I think his long-term future could be as a midfielder as long as he's willing to put in the shift required, because his ability as a passer isn't in doubt, and being in the hurly-burly of the centre of the park might help him focus more.

[Thordardaughter]

Not that I can see us changing shape or formation anytime soon, we all sit there and think what would we do differently.

Would a 442 or 4411 help us solidify the back line and still create chances?

By my reckoning, Macari could play RB without too much stress.
Baldwin and Warner in the middle.
Cameron at left back is my concern. Has he got the legs for it and the concentration? I’m not his biggest fan anyways, but his lack of concentration, his throwing himself to the floor antics and his lack of defensive nouse worry me.

If Chicksen was fit, I suppose he could come in?

Stone
Macari Baldwin Warner Cameron

Robertson as the anchor midfielder to put his foot in (which he did more and more at the weekend) and a creative passer next to him. On current form Bostock and Crawley are a no for me, leaving us with untested Colkett. (No idea about the guy until we’ve seen him a few times. Is he even match fit?)
Leave JJ and Nemane to be proper wingers.

Nemane Robertson Colkett Jones

Front pairing of Macca and Didzy, both rotating off each other with the dropping back etc…

Macca Didzy.


Do we lose too much creativity wise in the middle?
Would Nemane and JJ prosper without so many defensive duties, including throw ins?
Would the defence stand up better with a deeper line of 4?
Cameron and the 2nd midfielder slot are the worries. Bostock should hold that place or Crawley, but they’re both badly out of form.

I would love to see Nemane and Jones used as proper wingers.

[durhampie]

Not that I can see us changing shape or formation anytime soon, we all sit there and think what would we do differently.

Would a 442 or 4411 help us solidify the back line and still create chances?

By my reckoning, Macari could play RB without too much stress.
Baldwin and Warner in the middle.
Cameron at left back is my concern. Has he got the legs for it and the concentration? I’m not his biggest fan anyways, but his lack of concentration, his throwing himself to the floor antics and his lack of defensive nouse worry me.

If Chicksen was fit, I suppose he could come in?

Stone
Macari Baldwin Warner Cameron

Robertson as the anchor midfielder to put his foot in (which he did more and more at the weekend) and a creative passer next to him. On current form Bostock and Crawley are a no for me, leaving us with untested Colkett. (No idea about the guy until we’ve seen him a few times. Is he even match fit?)
Leave JJ and Nemane to be proper wingers.

Nemane Robertson Colkett Jones

Front pairing of Macca and Didzy, both rotating off each other with the dropping back etc…

Macca Didzy.


Do we lose too much creativity wise in the middle?
Would Nemane and JJ prosper without so many defensive duties, including throw ins?
Would the defence stand up better with a deeper line of 4?
Cameron and the 2nd midfielder slot are the worries. Bostock should hold that place or Crawley, but they’re both badly out of form.

We haven't got any creativity in midfield, all we do is give the ball away in dangerous positions, which then lead to goals against. Bostock is the biggest culprit, and he needs dropping. All he can do is pass the ball either sideways, backwards or to one of their players. last season the opposition was not very good and he excelled, this season it is a totally different story and he has struggled to impose himself on the game..
As for the team, i suggested reverting back to a 4 4 2 a while back to stem the flow of goals. This wouldnt compromise our attacking game, as we would still have Jones and Nemane operating in a 4 man midfield, with Obrien and Robertson in the middle.

Macca would be upfront with either Crowley or McGoldrick...

[PedroTheFisherman66]

I'm not averse to seeing Cameron in midfield , he has all the attributes just need game experience i would think after a career at the back.

[queenslandpie]

Unfortunately I think Cameron's future at Notts is fairly bleak. He's not good enough at the back for the reasons mentioned. I don't see why we would be faffing around trying to make him work in midfield. By next season Palmer will be back and we have signed Robertson and the new lad on loan from Crewe who's name I forget and if he works out will probably become a permanent fixture. So if they work out I cannot see him being required at all. My prediction is he will be either be warming the bench by next season or be shipped out on loan. He is also the captain which probably needs remedying quietly in the close season. Very hard to see a future for Cameron at Notts.

[SmiffyPie]

With all due respect to Cameron (and ignoring counterproductive sentimentality) he shouldn't feature in any plans to progress the team (along with Brindley).

[durhampie]

With all due respect to Cameron (and ignoring counterproductive sentimentality) he shouldn't feature in any plans to progress the team (along with Brindley).

I would sooner have him in the team over Bostock, at least he doesn't give away goals and penalty's every week..

[jackal2]

I would sooner have him in the team over Bostock, at least he doesn't give away goals and penalty's every week..

Bostock's another one who is (obviously) a very good player but too risky when he's deployed in a deep-lying midfield role. When he receives the ball with time he wants to show off his skills and for the most part looks very accomplished, but sometimes he slows us down or loses possession in dangerous areas. The fact is, with his ability, he can hit first time incisive passes if he isn't allowed time, and that's why I think he's better when he plays further forward in areas where he often has to play more instinctively and can't go into 'peacock' mode.

Scott Robertson and Matt Palmer both play the deep lying role better, without ego: track, tackle, and then pass the ball quickly and simply forward to the likes of Crowley. Deep lying midfielders aren't there to be the star of the show, but to do the "bread and butter work" that lets the likes of Crowley, Bostock and Jones be creative.

[SmiffyPie]

Bostock's another one who is (obviously) a very good player but too risky when he's deployed in a deep-lying midfield role. When he receives the ball with time he wants to show off his skills and for the most part looks very accomplished, but sometimes he slows us down or loses possession in dangerous areas. The fact is, with his ability, he can hit first time incisive passes if he isn't allowed time, and that's why I think he's better when he plays further forward in areas where he often has to play more instinctively and can't go into 'peacock' mode.

Scott Robertson and Matt Palmer both play the deep lying role better, without ego: track, tackle, and then pass the ball quickly and simply forward to the likes of Crowley. Deep lying midfielders aren't there to be the star of the show, but to do the "bread and butter work" that lets the likes of Crowley, Bostock and Jones be creative.

See the sense in that, wonder if it's the same issue with Crowley? (who seems to have lost an edge).