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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Not sure about ‘consensus’ or otherwise, AF.
    It seems a bit personal and maybe in need of further explanation, at least as far as the ‘landlords’ one is concerned.
    Would agree about the police and the NHS although the latter (probably both) need more funding imo.
    Think I largely agree on 4.
    Why £250k limit and why only ‘public body’ executive pay?

    Put another way, I don’t understand the landlord one even though I was briefly a landlord about 12/13 years ago and had no problem at all.
    Beyond that, if you’re arguing for greater support for public services (specifically the NHS and the police), people suffering from cancer having priority over those who desire a boob job and greater responsibility and pay restraint to be shown by the most wealthy…then you have my support.

    P.S. Completely agree with MA about ‘harassing’ unscrupulous landlords.
    No argument about increased funding for NHS and Police, but to give a fairly benign example regarding the police, I'm sure I'm not the only motorist who suspects that the number of police attending (even minor) motor accidents is a bit 'moth to a flame'. I recently queued over an hour getting less than a mile up the M1 due to an accident under the J27 bridge, and counted 11 officers chatting yet none at the top of the J27 ramp exercising a simple bit of traffic management that could have resolved the pressure. I could offer other examples, both motor-related and not

    The 250k was just a number plucked from the ether, the public body only was because (you and) I pay for the ****ers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    No argument about increased funding for NHS and Police, but to give a fairly benign example regarding the police, I'm sure I'm not the only motorist who suspects that the number of police attending (even minor) motor accidents is a bit 'moth to a flame'. I recently queued over an hour getting less than a mile up the M1 due to an accident under the J27 bridge, and counted 11 officers chatting yet none at the top of the J27 ramp exercising a simple bit of traffic management that could have resolved the pressure. I could offer other examples, both motor-related and not

    The 250k was just a number plucked from the ether, the public body only was because (you and) I pay for the ****ers
    There you go…agreement on the NHS and my own, less ‘benign’, experience leads me to have no difficulty in recognising your police example.

    The £250k you say was picked at random so it’s a bit meaningless…all I’ll say is that…do we not pay for those who are extraordinarily well paid in the private sector too?
    I ask this because someone I know well has recently moved from being employed by a private company to being self employed. This came about as a result of the pandemic and I admire his bravery and determination enormously. What I am concerned about however is the number of ‘tax and other’ benefits that now come his way as a member of the self employed ‘class’. I don’t consider myself as naive but I was surprised at the level of these ‘extras’ and are we not, indirectly, paying for these ‘benefits’ too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    There you go…agreement on the NHS and my own, less ‘benign’, experience leads me to have no difficulty in recognising your police example.

    The £250k you say was picked at random so it’s a bit meaningless…all I’ll say is that…do we not pay for those who are extraordinarily well paid in the private sector too?
    I ask this because someone I know well has recently moved from being employed by a private company to being self employed. This came about as a result of the pandemic and I admire his bravery and determination enormously. What I am concerned about however is the number of ‘tax and other’ benefits that now come his way as a member of the self employed ‘class’. I don’t consider myself as naive but I was surprised at the level of these ‘extras’ and are we not, indirectly, paying for these ‘benefits’ too?
    OK, three times the PM's salary. But I gave that in a recent discussion and was told it was too much! I'm talking principles not absolutes.

    An easy to explain reason for limiting things to public sector seniors is that most of them are a local or national monopoly, or close to. I can choose who to buy my milk off, but I can't choose who to buy my water off is a clear example. And I simply don't believe the talent pool for executives is so small that those chosen deserve such enourmous payouts. The argument is always that capping salaries would result in a 'talent drain' but I personally think, using a very non-corporate phrase, thats a load of *******s

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