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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    Lol, I think you will struggle to impress Deeranged.

    But I understood what you were getting at.

    I do like people taking an interest in the "finances"........whether you are right, wrong or somewhere in between I have absolutely no idea.

    Curious thing for me is WGS being paid in shares.
    We our track record we shouldn't mock anyone from taking an interest in the finances of the club.
    The problem starts when it's a biased personal view trying to discredit the owners.
    As jdfc says the fitba is decent just now but the personal stuff still comes out.
    A wee question for Islay,do you want the club to thrive or fail under nelms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eric_sinclair View Post
    We our track record we shouldn't mock anyone from taking an interest in the finances of the club.
    The problem starts when it's a biased personal view trying to discredit the owners.
    As jdfc says the fitba is decent just now but the personal stuff still comes out.
    A wee question for Islay,do you want the club to thrive or fail under nelms?
    I want Dundee Football Club to thrive but not with Nelms in charge as he is only interested in surrounding himself with Yes men who do as they are told.
    The Dundee FC Community Trust is a case in point. According to the rules of Football Club Community Trusts people from a wide background with their own expert knowledge should be appointed Trustees.
    The current trustees of the Dundee FC Community Trust are Gerard Dignan who has been a trustee since since Day 1, Pam Rdgers who is Nelms’s secretary, Lindsay Darroch who is the Dundee Football Club Limited Company Secretary and another female whose name I cannot remember is the treasurer.
    This is hardly a wide representation of people in the Dundee area who are able to give their own expert knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    I want Dundee Football Club to thrive but not with Nelms in charge.

    Surely if the club is thriving and doing well that is a good thing? Or does your hatred of Nelms trump that and you would rather see the club fail as long as he is at the helm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    The Dundee FC Community Trust is a case in point. According to the rules of Football Club Community Trusts people from a wide background with their own expert knowledge should be appointed Trustees.
    The current trustees of the Dundee FC Community Trust are Gerard Dignan who has been a trustee since since Day 1, Pam Rdgers who is Nelms’s secretary, Lindsay Darroch who is the Dundee Football Club Limited Company Secretary and another female whose name I cannot remember is the treasurer.
    This is hardly a wide representation of people in the Dundee area who are able to give their own expert knowledge.

    I take it you are familiar with the skill set and knowledge the people you mention have? Just because two of them are connected to Dundee FC in some shape or form should not be a barrier for them to be trustees of the Community Trust. Has it occurred to you that these people might have the expert knowledge and skill set required to be the current trustees, or is it you yet again finding something to complain about and find fault with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dens Park Dynamo View Post
    I take it you are familiar with the skill set and knowledge the people you mention have? Just because two of them are connected to Dundee FC in some shape or form should not be a barrier for them to be trustees of the Community Trust. Has it occurred to you that these people might have the expert knowledge and skill set required to be the current trustees, or is it you yet again finding something to complain about and find fault with.
    I enclose the list of the Dundee United Community Trust trustees where you will see that they have a wide range of expertise. https://www.dundeeunitedct.co.uk/our-trustees
    I worked beside Gavin Muir in the Bank of Scotland and Elliot Shaw was an excellent and very helpful member of the Dundee Football Club Commercial team in 2018-19 before he sadly left to work at Glasgow Rangers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    I enclose the list of the Dundee United Community Trust trustees where you will see that they have a wide range of expertise. https://www.dundeeunitedct.co.uk/our-trustees
    I worked beside Gavin Muir in the Bank of Scotland and Elliot Shaw was an excellent and very helpful member of the Dundee Football Club Commercial team in 2018-19 before he sadly left to work at Glasgow Rangers.
    So you can't or won't answer the question asked and deflect the subject to something else instead? What is it that makes those individuals on the DFC Trust less suitable for such a role than those on the Dundee United Trust?

    Because you worked beside Gavin Muir and because Elliot Shaw was 'an excellent and very useful member of the Dundee FC Commercial Team' they're both automatically better than any trustee on the DFC Community Trust?

    Classic Islay.

    Looking at the Elliot Shaw comment I can only assume you had one or more positive experiences with him when he was on the DFC Commercial Team? Because, as we all know, if you'd had a negative experience with him he'd be persona non grata in your opinion and completely unsuitable for such a position with Dundee United........... wouldn't he?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    So you can't or won't answer the question asked and deflect the subject to something else instead? What is it that makes those individuals on the DFC Trust less suitable for such a role than those on the Dundee United Trust?

    Because you worked beside Gavin Muir and because Elliot Shaw was 'an excellent and very useful member of the Dundee FC Commercial Team' they're both automatically better than any trustee on the DFC Community Trust?

    Classic Islay.

    Looking at the Elliot Shaw comment I can only assume you had one or more positive experiences with him when he was on the DFC Commercial Team? Because, as we all know, if you'd had a negative experience with him he'd be persona non grata in your opinion and completely unsuitable for such a position with Dundee United........... wouldn't he?.
    So you think that it is a good idea for Nelms to fill the board of Trustees on the Dundee FC Community Trust with his friends.
    Community Trustees need to come from a wide field of expertise not be full of Yes men.
    Elliot Shaw was very helpful when I had to collect tickets from Dens Park for the sponsors dinner in October 2018.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    So you think that it is a good idea for Nelms to fill the board of Trustees on the Dundee FC Community Trust with his friends.
    Community Trustees need to come from a wide field of expertise not be full of Yes men.
    Elliot Shaw was very helpful when I had to collect tickets from Dens Park for the sponsors dinner in October 2018.
    As we all know, surrounding himself with yes men is what John Nelms does. However unless you can prove to all of us that the Dundee FC Trust board members are less qualified, come from a less than wide field of experience and are less suitable than someone that was nice to you when you picked up tickets then that point is moot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    So you think that it is a good idea for Nelms to fill the board of Trustees on the Dundee FC Community Trust with his friends.
    Community Trustees need to come from a wide field of expertise not be full of Yes men.
    I will ask the question again...Are you familiar with the skill set and expertise of the current DFC Community Trust Trustees? How do you know that they do not have the skills required? You state that and i quote your words " Community Trustees need to come from a wide field of expertise"

    You will of course have the evidence to prove this is not the case with the current Trustees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    So you can't or won't answer the question asked and deflect the subject to something else instead? What is it that makes those individuals on the DFC Trust less suitable for such a role than those on the Dundee United Trust?

    Because you worked beside Gavin Muir and because Elliot Shaw was 'an excellent and very useful member of the Dundee FC Commercial Team' they're both automatically better than any trustee on the DFC Community Trust?

    Classic Islay.

    Looking at the Elliot Shaw comment I can only assume you had one or more positive experiences with him when he was on the DFC Commercial Team? Because, as we all know, if you'd had a negative experience with him he'd be persona non grata in your opinion and completely unsuitable for such a position with Dundee United........... wouldn't he?.
    You are persona non grata as far as I am concerned.

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