+ Visit Notts. County FC Mad for Latest News, Transfer Gossip, Fixtures and Match Results
Page 10 of 24 FirstFirst ... 8910111220 ... LastLast
Results 91 to 100 of 231

Thread: Give the manager more time

  1. #91
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    8,730
    Quote Originally Posted by irishpete View Post
    Why is it crazy & a joke. People & businesses make mistakes. Takes balls to admit especially early on. Take it from me, you get an idea within the first week, whether you have been sold a lemon. I think you will find the football world was surprised at our appointment like a lot of fans
    Our owners weren't just taking a random punt on someone. It wasn't a gamble that backfired. They will have thought long and hard about the type of coach they wanted 'in the building' before settling on Maynard.

    The reasons why they chose him haven't disappeared or been invalidated because of a three of four poor results. For the same reason you wouldn't drop a lot of money on a certain stock that you've spent many hours analysing only to panic sell it a few weeks later because it went down 5%.

    What I'm trying to say is, major decisions that change the course of the club's future take time to make. You need to be absolutely certain you are making the right decision and that you have exhausted all possibilities of a turnaround in fortunes.

    Sacking the manager isn't the first thing you do so solve a problem, it's one of the last. Being in danger of relegation would force a bit more urgency, but we aren't in that position yet.

    Thank god our owners don't think like some of our fans do, or we'd be back to three managers a season and eternal decline.

  2. #92
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    11,252
    Quote Originally Posted by slack_pie View Post
    Our owners weren't just taking a random punt on someone. It wasn't a gamble that backfired. They will have thought long and hard about the type of coach they wanted 'in the building' before settling on Maynard.

    The reasons why they chose him haven't disappeared or been invalidated because of a three of four poor results. For the same reason you wouldn't drop a lot of money on a certain stock that you've spent many hours analysing only to panic sell it a few weeks later because it went down 5%.

    What I'm trying to say is, major decisions that change the course of the club's future take time to make. You need to be absolutely certain you are making the right decision and that you have exhausted all possibilities of a turnaround in fortunes.

    Sacking the manager isn't the first thing you do so solve a problem, it's one of the last. Being in danger of relegation would force a bit more urgency, but we aren't in that position yet.

    Thank god our owners don't think like some of our fans do, or we'd be back to three managers a season and eternal decline.
    Every decision the owners or Football Radar make is not infallible. Some they win, some they lose. Burchnall wasn't a great appointment, LW more so. Morias didn't arrive on a whim, there would have been analysis, but that didn't make him a guaranteed success.

    The owners may yet surprise you, people are making assumptions about what they will do.
    Last edited by Bohinen; 29-02-2024 at 10:09 AM.

  3. #93
    Join Date
    May 2023
    Posts
    701
    Quote Originally Posted by the_anticlough View Post
    I don't think we should take it for granted that we know what 'their way' is when it comes to hiring, and especially firing.
    The club was a mess when they took over. They allowed Ardley to steer us to 3rd (?) with steady progress up the table, and got to the covid-affected play-off final. But I don't think they hung about long in the second season and fired him pretty sharpish when the first prolonged run of poor results came along.
    They don't want a dead ground with many thousands less attending. I don't think we should assume that they're not the types to be ruthless.
    There is a difference between ruthless and reckless. RT and AH were the latter with their sackings at the first sign of trouble. I think the brothers will wait to see if there is any improvement and once they are convinced then they will act, but they will provide time. Those improvements may not be in immediate improvements in results, as they will be seeing and hearing stuff that we don't and can't, which may point to an upturn down the line. If they don't see that, or those improvements in results don't follow, then I think they will move quickly.

  4. #94
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    8,730
    Quote Originally Posted by Bohinen View Post
    Every decision the owners or Football Radar make is not infallible. Some they win, some they lose. Burchnall wasn't a great appointment, LW more so. Morias didn't arrive on a whim, there would have been analysis, but that didn't make him a guaranteed success.

    The owners may yet surprise you, people are making assumptions about what they will do.
    I'm not saying they're infallible, I'm saying they're calm and calculated. Calm and calculated people don't panic and make rash decisions. They wait patiently until they know with as much certainty as possible what the right decision is.

    If they prove me wrong and sack Maynard today like people are asking for, we've got bigger problems than I realised.

    I don't know when enough is enough. For me, it's not yet. It might be clearer in a month or so.

  5. #95
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    5,135
    Quote Originally Posted by nw6pie View Post
    I think a problem we have as Notts fans is a tendency to go straight for the nuclear option - demands to sack the manager, sack the CEO, sack the tea lady/person, etc - even though that approach rarely works. Sacking the manager should be the last option, not the first one.
    To be honest, that tea lady wants sacking. There's been no sugar in the Pavis for weeks!!

  6. #96
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    8,730
    Quote Originally Posted by Dunce View Post
    To be honest, that tea lady wants sacking. There's been no sugar in the Pavis for weeks!!
    I'd say the best solution to that problem is to completely destroy the entire Pavis stand and build a new one mid-season.

  7. #97
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Posts
    4,380
    The truth is we don’t know if SMs any good or not as we haven’t seen him on the training ground or know what the players think.
    We shipped goals when LW was here and against not great sides.
    I just looked at the players Tues night and thought who out there has the defensive side to them and came to the conclusion Robertsons pretty tough and has the desire in front of the back 3 and then look at the back 3 and see Cameron not even competing for headers, Warner obviously trying to get to grips with men’s football, Rawlinson losing all his mobility and whilst I do believe Baldwin can defend he goes and makes that mistake and also the tangle with Bostock Sat and just come to the conclusion of what can SM really do?

  8. #98
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    9,974
    Quote Originally Posted by Bohinen View Post
    Every decision the owners or Football Radar make is not infallible. Some they win, some they lose. Burchnall wasn't a great appointment, LW more so. Morias didn't arrive on a whim, there would have been analysis, but that didn't make him a guaranteed success.

    The owners may yet surprise you, people are making assumptions about what they will do.
    Agree with those observations. The owners have made virtually all their big decisions while we were still a non league club. Employing successful coaches and signing effective players is significantly easier when you’re by some distance one of the biggest clubs in the league.

    As we’ve seen in the past, running Notts County at EFL level is far more fraught with difficult decisions.

  9. #99
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    3,879
    Quote Originally Posted by slack_pie View Post
    I'm not saying they're infallible, I'm saying they're calm and calculated. Calm and calculated people don't panic and make rash decisions. They wait patiently until they know with as much certainty as possible what the right decision is.

    If they prove me wrong and sack Maynard today like people are asking for, we've got bigger problems than I realised.

    I don't know when enough is enough. For me, it's not yet. It might be clearer in a month or so.
    On the counter side, recruitment has been appalling at times, not much thought has gone into that, I would say cheap 'Lucky Dips' that haven't paid off, tbh I would say it's been completely opposite to the picture you are trying to paint.

  10. #100
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Posts
    13,571
    Quote Originally Posted by slack_pie View Post
    I'm not saying they're infallible, I'm saying they're calm and calculated. Calm and calculated people don't panic and make rash decisions. They wait patiently until they know with as much certainty as possible what the right decision is.

    If they prove me wrong and sack Maynard today like people are asking for, we've got bigger problems than I realised.

    I don't know when enough is enough. For me, it's not yet. It might be clearer in a month or so.
    I'd agree with that.

    If the owners made a snap decision now it would worry me a lot more than our current slump in form, because it would be a sign that they're moving away from the approach the has mainly worked over the past three years, and into the territory occupied by previous owners, which mainly didn't work.

    The only circumstance in which a decision this soon might be justified is if the players as a group are telling the owners they can't work with Maynard, as was reportedly the case with Harry Kewell, and this would need to be genuinely evidenced within the club, not mischief-makers on message boards saying they've heard this or that or making the famous "lost the dressing room" claim.

    If results over March and April proved to be diabolical then it probably would force the brothers' hand because they would need to consider whether they still trust the current Head Coach to set us up for a new season, but at this stage the only certainty is that Maynard has had a poor start results-wise. Factor in also that the team was already going out of form when he arrived, and that the performances at Newport and Wrexham were actually very good.

    Maynard has inherited a defence that by common consensus isn't considered good enough, so the same problem would face any Head Coach that replaced him. Over the next few weeks if he can find a way of stopping the goals going into our net, using current resources at his disposal, then it would actually be a sign of some managerial/tactical ability.
    Last edited by jackal2; 29-02-2024 at 11:55 AM.

Page 10 of 24 FirstFirst ... 8910111220 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •