Election Year or Fear!

[ramAnag]

It seems a bit of a common trait amongst you apologists that you choose not to take into account population demographics when making such assertions. The last government study found that 81% of perpetrators were white, roughly in line with the population. Recent posts including but not exclusively your own are riddled with such ignorance

Tbf Andy, I don’t think Swale is writing as an ‘apologist’ and I’m certainly not…I speak as someone who is wholly opposed, both practically and idealistically, to all forms of child abuse.
It’s interesting that you’ve never come back to clarify your strong objections to my initial post but that’s up to you.
I am glad that you recognise that abusers seem to be fairly evenly spread across the cultures…that’s certainly the case in my experience, and was the rationale behind challenging TTR’s predictable portrayal of Muslims as abusers.

[Trickytreesreds]

Tbf Andy, I don’t think Swale is writing as an ‘apologist’ and I’m certainly not…I speak as someone who is wholly opposed, both practically and idealistically, to all forms of child abuse.
It’s interesting that you’ve never come back to clarify your strong objections to my initial post but that’s up to you.
I am glad that you recognise that abusers seem to be fairly evenly spread across the cultures…that’s certainly the case in my experience, and was the rationale behind challenging TTR’s predictable portrayal of Muslims as abusers.

My portrayal as you cal it.
Was in line with the topic of the thread. That Islam now manifests itself in many ways in UK society,
The grooming gangs were and are outrageous, but you have to look deeper than that, as to why it happened.

The word "racists" has been weaponised and used as a shield to cover up all sorts crimes and outrages committed by ethic minorities in the last 30 odd years.
Islam, is a force of its own. It now has spread into politics, where racial sectariamism, is a platform to get elected.

It will now get worse, as Labour is about to lose a huge proportion of its imported voters, that Blair instigated.

Stop covering it up. Face up to it and deal with it, as one nation , under one law.

The problem with the UK (AND EUROPE), is that mass immigration has occurred over a short space of time, with minimum integration.
The brains behind this hadn't thought it through.

As the USA under Biden are now finding out. The democrats were all boo hoo, let them come. Until its ended up in their own back yard and now they are screaming.
The irony being, the ones that are suffering there, are the legal immigrant poor, who voted Democrats.

Meanwhile, China/Russia have clear plans for expansion and their countries fIrst. The West gets softer and implodes under woke and race issues.
Trouble coming.

[ramAnag]

My portrayal as you cal it.
Was in line with the topic of the thread. That Islam now manifests itself in many ways in UK society,
The grooming gangs were and are outrageous, but you have to look deeper than that, as to why it happened.

The word "racists" has been weaponised and used as a shield to cover up all sorts crimes and outrages committed by ethic minorities in the last 30 odd years.
Islam, is a force of its own. It now has spread into politics, where racial sectariamism, is a platform to get elected.

It will now get worse, as Labour is about to lose a huge proportion of its imported voters, that Blair instigated.

Stop covering it up. Face up to it and deal with it, as one nation , under one law.

The problem with the UK (AND EUROPE), is that mass immigration has occurred over a short space of time, with minimum integration.
The brains behind this hadn't thought it through.

As the USA under Biden are now finding out. The democrats were all boo hoo, let them come. Until its ended up in their own back yard and now they are screaming.
The irony being, the ones that are suffering there, are the legal immigrant poor, who voted Democrats.

Meanwhile, China/Russia have clear plans for expansion and their countries fIrst. The West gets softer and implodes under woke and race issues.
Trouble coming.

Do stop shouting Tricky…using a bigger font doesn’t make anyone take any more notice of you.

The ‘topic of the thread’ as you call it is the impending elections on either side of the Atlantic. Islam, Muslims and *****philia hadn’t been mentioned until you resurfaced and the tone had been quite reasoned and rational.

Why not start your own thread in your capacity as the forum’s guest ‘foreign correspondent’? See how many people want a sensible discussion about immigration and Islam instead of piggybacking and catastrophizing an existing one.

[Trickytreesreds]

Do stop shouting Tricky…using a bigger font doesn’t make anyone take any more notice of you.

The ‘topic of the thread’ as you call it is the impending elections on either side of the Atlantic. Islam, Muslims and *****philia hadn’t been mentioned until you resurfaced and the tone had been quite reasoned and rational.

Why not start your own thread in your capacity as the forum’s guest ‘foreign correspondent’? See how many people want a sensible discussion about immigration and Islam instead of piggybacking and catastrophizing an existing one.

CORRECT, CURRENT IMPENDING ELECTIONS.

We have just had a new MP admitted, who campaigned on the demographics, of Gaza first?
A UK MP, elected on the back of a Muslim problem 3000 miles away.
The reasons why are there for everyone to see, but you think it's irrelevent.
Welcome to religious sectarianism in the electorate.

[ramAnag]

CORRECT, CURRENT IMPENDING ELECTIONS.

We have just had a new MP admitted, who campaigned on the demographics, of Gaza first?
A UK MP, elected on the back of a Muslim problem 3000 miles away.
The reasons why are there for everyone to see, but you think it's irrelevent.
Welcome to religious sectarianism in the electorate.

I don’t think it’s ‘irrelevant’…I just don’t think the circumstances and the individual concerned make it at all indicative of the issues that the next General Election will - or should - be fought on.
The exceptional circumstances of the Rochdale by-election and ‘Curious George’ are not high on most people’s list of concerns. He’s another self serving attention seeker…the political opposite of Farage but otherwise they have much in common.