Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
Rubbish.

Apply population demographics against crimes committed and the results are damming.

Its facts like that, that you avoid. Blaming bias and predjudice.
Yes it was white girls abused.
because the situation was there to be exploited by one demograph of ethnicity. (Pakistani)
1. it was against the law in many ways- it was the perps fault not the vicims, no matter how much you try to white wash that
2. drugs and alcohol were used. They certainly were not wanting to be raped/peddled/passed around like a piece of meat
3. They complained, the authoritys didn't want to take it seriously and it was swept under the carpet.
4. You mention mysogyny? Go the whole hog then
The Muslim back ground of the perpetrators -
women are second class citizens/ white girls are beneath that/ they were easy to tempy with booze and drugs. In their eyes , their faith didn't condemn a lot in what they were doing.

The fight against grooming gangs is still being hampered by authorities’ fears that they could be called racist for documenting abusers’ ethnicity, an official has said.

A damning report by the Independent Inquiry into Child ***ual Abuse (IICSA) found child ***ual exploitation continues in all parts of England and Wales, a decade after it became a national scandal.

The report said children were being abused “in the most degrading and destructive ways” amid “extensive failures by local authorities and police forces”.

John O’Brien, secretary to the inquiry, called for a “cultural change” to ensure that child ***ual exploitation can be understood and prevented.

“We need to break the culture where people are worried that they might be accused of being racist just because they record factual information,” he told The Independent.


You keep apologising and trying to deflect the outrage, by blaming the likes of me for calling it out for what it is.
How the **** did you reach that conclusion? The outrage is purely confected by bigoted, xenophobic thickos like you, who it seems ignore the abuse that's being perpetrated by those who are white and focus purely on cases where there is an ethnic element.

The fact that you claim I was victim blaming, demonstrates quite clearly that you either cannot comprehend simple English - a common affliction of the racist gammon I find. because nowhere in my response to your pathetic polemic, did I blame the victims. Not sure why you bother to debate when you can't even understand what's been posted - its not hard really, you just have to read properly and avoid filtering it with your right wing bias!

I was actually clarifying, that far from child ***ual exploitation and the failure to take action on cases of domestic abuse and rape was down to the attitudes of the Police, Social Services and other authorities to TAKE THE VICTIMS SERIOUSLY as evidenced in the very low conviction rates for these crimes.

Neither did I suggest race wasn't a factor in some cases and merely that its convenient for those in authority to use sensitivity to race as an excuse, rather than admit they the fact "victim blaming" was a major factor.

You quote from any source that appears to back up your false claims - again I find that typical of people who are looking to support and agenda.

The recent Home office official report states:

The majority of child ***ual abuse gangs are made up of white men under the age of 30, an official paper has said.

The report, which covers England, Scotland and Wales and summarises a range of studies on the issue of group-based child ***ual exploitation (CSE), also known as grooming gangs, said there was not enough evidence to conclude that child ***ual abuse gangs were disproportionately made up of Asian offenders.

MM BUT CLEARLY YOU DON'T BASE YOUR VIEWS ON EVIDENCE DO YOU?

But obviously you swallow hook line and sinker, those reports which claim that its Asian Gangs that are the issue. I'm not saying they aren't, just not the major one here thats a skewed claim, made purely to advance a certain agenda as you well know, so cut the crap.

I did piss myself laughing when you mentioned applying demographics, sorry but you have shown no ability to understand and interpret demographics or statistics, so forgive me if I take that as you parroting another phrase spewed out by some tw@t online or on a right wing media channel. Jeez if your going to debate a serious subject, then you do need to keep within your ability or as you will make yourself look stupid, as you have done in your latest post.

As indeed is your faux rage of this issue, I'll wager I've had more dealings in reality with these sorts of issues than you have.

“The danger is that by focusing entirely on the ethnicity of the offender, we miss the bigger picture, which is how the unheard, the left-behind women and girls, are invariably the victims. That’s where the government’s attention and action should be primarily focused.”

OH LOOK, THE FOCUS SHOULD BE ON THE VICTIMS! Which is what I said in my last post, yes in certain cases (but not the majority) sensitivity to race was an issue. But by far the greatest issue is that women and girls in these circumstances are viewed by those in authority as being responsible in some way.

I even quoted the recent case where the murderer of a *** worker who has finally been convicted, was hampered by this victim blaming.

So all in all your last post, is wrong on many levels and demonstrates just how your thoughts are influenced by the cr@p you read online, rather than the product of genuine critical thinking and your not calling anything out for what it is, rather your using a particular series of events to falsely justify your obvious xenophobia, bigotry and racism.

I do try and have an honest debate with you, but **** me, you are rally thick sometimes!