Election Year or Fear!

[ramAnag]

I think the reference to calling people "Nazis and gammons" is aimed at the pilot, not the rear gunner ��.

In which case, replying to me and referring to - ‘calling anyone who disagrees with YOU Nazis or gammons’ - seems, as I said, either confused or out of order wouldn’t you agree?

[Andy_Faber]

In which case, replying to me and referring to - ‘calling anyone who disagrees with YOU Nazis or gammons’ - seems, as I said, either confused or out of order wouldn’t you agree?

Confused. It didn’t confuse GP.

The reference was more specifically to Swale (on here) and an army (air force) of similar left-minded folk who pollute the internet with such insults instead of providing a rebuttal to right-leaning assertions. Not saying there isn’t a load of b*****ks from the right-leaners but I thought, to quote yourself, ‘you (to be dead clear not you personally) are better than that

See as a great example of a reasonable response, MA’s recent post which, while I don’t agree with some of it, at least offers some thought through stuff

[ramAnag]

Confused. It didn’t confuse GP.

The reference was more specifically to Swale (on here) and an army (air force) of similar left-minded folk who pollute the internet with such insults instead of providing a rebuttal to right-leaning assertions. Not saying there isn’t a load of b*****ks from the right-leaners but I thought, to quote yourself, ‘you (to be dead clear not you personally) are better than that

Clear as mud that, AF. A simple ‘sorry, I got the wrong target’ would suffice but heh ho.

Agree about MA’s response but the problem, imo, is that a reasonable and objective thread is being turned into an anti Muslim rant by one person in the same way as Right wingers as a whole will attempt to sidetrack away from what should be the main electoral issues by turning divisive and disproportionate attention towards Muslims and migrants.

We can expect a lot more of this from the populists, the hard core Brexiteers and the extreme Right, including GBNews, when what we should really be considering are, to be ultra topical today, such matters as the future of our nation and such issues as the NHS/public spending v tax cuts, Green issues and foreign policy. To that extent this forum is simply becoming a microcosm of society as a whole…all sound and fury and very little reason.

[Andy_Faber]

this forum is simply becoming a microcosm of society as a whole…all sound and fury and very little reason.

From any of us

(I’ll exclude MA from that)

[ramAnag]

From any of us

…in your opinion, but I hope you’d agree to caution against such noise and rancour dominating the actual election. Maybe we could set an example on here with your help…Mr. Speaker.

[Andy_Faber]

…in your opinion, but I hope you’d agree to caution against such noise and rancour dominating the actual election. Maybe we could set an example on here with your help…Mr. Speaker.

Honestly? I hope it’s ‘lively’, that obvious *******s is called out, that contentious assertions are fact checked and that whoever wins makes the country a better place in a sustainable manner. I’m afraid however that the noise and rancour will continue here due to the personalities involved

[Trickytreesreds]

Clear as mud that, AF. A simple ‘sorry, I got the wrong target’ would suffice but heh ho.

Agree about MA’s response but the problem, imo, is that a reasonable and objective thread is being turned into an anti Muslim rant by one person in the same way as Right wingers as a whole will attempt to sidetrack away from what should be the main electoral issues by turning divisive and disproportionate attention towards Muslims and migrants.

We can expect a lot more of this from the populists, the hard core Brexiteers and the extreme Right, including GBNews, when what we should really be considering are, to be ultra topical today, such matters as the future of our nation and such issues as the NHS/public spending v tax cuts, Green issues and foreign policy. To that extent this forum is simply becoming a microcosm of society as a whole…all sound and fury and very little reason.

OH RA, I know sometimes the topics you don't like crop up, simply because they are not complete Tory bashing, which suits you.
But my "rants" as you call them, erupted after, Parliament got its nickers in a twist, over Labour MP's rebelling over a ceasefire, Starmer doing the honkey cokey to avoid a riot and the SNP + Torys behaving like kids. All over an issue thousands of miles away from the country.
In the meantime, the speaker was hung out to dry, a Bye election was hijacked, all for the same reason Of Islamic sectarianism.

the rhetoric has been stepped up from crime/ grooming etc, into the push for an Islamic presence in the way the country is run. It is very relevant thank you very much- an election is coming.

You had better get used to it as well. Blair allowed the influx to begin, in the hope of swelling his electorate coffers. It is now about to blow up in Labours face, as more Independents stand and Muslim regions turn to them. It won;t be long before a proper Muslim issue party comes along , with over 5 million Muslim votes to chase.

Your last bye election. a Labour stong hold- no mention of tax/ NHS/ green/ jobs/ cost of living. GAZA, YES GAZA was the main selling point. Islam issues first?
If that isn't relevant I don't know what is. If you want to slag populists off and GB news for showing it, then do so. But don't ignore the problem, because its real, jyust the same as immigration will be a main topic in the election.

Swale calls me a xenophobe? That makes me laugh. a person having a dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries.
I'm all over the place, had a native Canadian Indian girlfriend and currently engaged to a Thai. Yearh, I hate foreigners lol.

Fact for you- this country has taken in more people of the last 25 years, than it did over the last 2000 years.
I don't dislike immigration, but I do dislike mass immigration, it's destroying the country. The last Brexit vote was was fought on that.
Pity the Tories forgot that.


You may not like it either,