O/T Covid Vaccine mRNA

[frogmiller]

Wasn't meant to insult frog - just a whimsical acknowledgement of the link sharer's chosen salutation. Made me laugh.

I watched much of the link - I despair that we are highlighting Piers Morgan's ignorance in thinking that the vaccine's were able to stop transition. I mean I'm no biologist or medical guy, but it was clear to me and most people that read the basics that the vaccine was designed to reduce impact of infection, and in my opinion, evidence with my own eyes, links with care fomes and hospitals where we were struggling to keep pace with the corpses in the first year, as well as following trends of death reduction in such areas once the vaccination was rolled out makes the pros and cons of the vaccination fall in favour of the pros. It was an unprecedented situation, many decisions made quickly and errors of judgement made which I think is as to be expected from human beings who hadn't done as goodf a job on pandemic prep for a quite predictable coronavirus outbreak. I'm all for the enquiries and conclusions to come, and for public scrutiny to be tight on them, so that we can learn from it. And that includes whether due attention was paid to the vaccines rolled out, and corruption within the process. What I struggle with is pre judging and sharing of skewed information ('we were told it would stop the virus', 'it made me poorly') from people who have as little understanding of medical biology as I do.

Raging I accept your apology. When I started this thread I did so at the same time as the Farmers protest. At the same time there was a thread running regarding the Post office sub post masters who were wrongly convicted and many lost everything that they worked for. The inquiry is still on going and the people have not recieved due compensation.
There have been other tragedies covered up by government including the Blood Scandal that people are still fighting for compensation. The list goes on including the WMD that took people to war.

I have said it before that the time line with my illness coincides with the 2nd vaccine I had and the fact that I had to have a third or I wasn't allowed to visit my cardialogue or surgeon. I certainly wouldn't have had the operation I needed to rectify the problem and I was lucky because if I hadn't have been in France then I wouldn't have gotten to see anyone and I wouldn't be here now.

This vaccine was pushed as safe and effective. Kids were pushed into taking it because it was said to stop transmission and stop them passing the virus on to their grand parents. That in itself is emotional blackmail!
The people that worked for tv channels to encourage us to take the vaccines such as the doctors (Dr Hillary being one) have been descovered that they were paid by big phama.
Knowing that a leader of a G7 country has put £500m into a company that had not had a succesful product to market (Moderna) is a bit suspect to say the least.

I want the mNRA to be stopped until the side effects are fully discovered.
I want WHO to be no where near controling any pandemic treaty as they are privately financed an aren't independent.

There are so many things that have yet to be answered regarding the long term effects of these vaccines that to keep administering them knowing that they could and do cause harm is wrong.


I don't mind coming back on here and saying I was wrong! In fact I would be delighted.

[KerrAvon]

I want the mNRA to be stopped until the side effects are fully discovered.

How do think it would be possible to fully discover side effects without deploying mRNA vaccines following clinical trials.

If you aren't using a vaccine, drug or treatment then there's no chance of determining whether there are very rare side effects associated with their use.

In vitro studies, animal trials and the limited number of volunteers used in clinical trials are very unlikely to detect very rare side effects. That's the same for vaccines as it would have been for paracetamol, penicillin and every other drug that has been given authorisation.

When the clinical trials are taken into account, the covid vaccines have been in use for 4 years and they continue to have an excellent safety profile. What more do you want? I don't think you are going to get it.