O/T General Election

[Omegstrat6]

14 years of Conservative rule is more than enough thanks. Two things concern me most about them, firstly that so many of them come from privileged and moneyed backgrounds that they haven't a clue about how the vast majority of ordinary people live and the pressures they face and ,secondly, the right wing element of wannabe Thatchers who don't have an ounce of her ability.

Even Sunak sounded like Truss the other day when he claimed that stricter Benefit controls would force people into "well paid work" where they would be "better off". I'm all for clamping down on Benefit cheats but what f ucking planet does he live on? All the Conservatives have done is to drive inequality in the country, continued to erode workers rights and enabled further exploitation of them by unscrupulous companies:

Full time job?
Sorry, we only do part time or zero hours.
Well, guess I can get a second job to fit in.
Hmm, may be difficult because we require full flexiblity.
What about pay?
It's good-minimum wage.
Benefits? you know, breaks, holiday entitlement, sick pay, pensions and stuff?
Oh, we meet all the minimum legal requirements

" Profit isn't a dirty word" Truss said. No, it isnt. But it is if it is made through the exploitation of others. Braverman would call that the "politics of envy" of course. But she's a coconut who probably drowns kittens in her spare time.

The Conservatives: the party of "law and order", the party that will curb immigration, the party that will bring prosperity to the country. So many broken promises that even their own are turning against them.

People say Starmer isn't a leader, isn't charismatic enough. F uck charisma. Charisma is too close to narcissism for my liking. Look at Blair or Boris and where they got us. I'm hoping Starmer will be at least a safe pair of hands but what really worries me is that I still don't know what he or Labour really stand for. (Oh, and I really don't like it when Angela Rayner opens her gob either)

There are no easy solutions or quick fixes to our problems and I really wish there was a party I could believe in and get behind but in the absence of that I'll personally reluctantly go down the tactical voting route because I genuinely do not want to see the present Conservative government return to power.

[Dubbag]

There are quite a lot of important elections been held across the planet this year. National socialism (Nazis) is rising similar to 1930s again. And quite openly too. Democracy is been attacked from the outside and undermined from within.
Boreman (Hitler's Accountant)salted away billions of looted treasures from WWII, which was never recovered to this day. Many world Governments around the world and certain religious orders benifitted from it. He was of the opinion the Nazis could not win the war through direct confrontation but through deceit or phycology. I think those billions are bearing fruit now.
Battle the Bulge repeat it would seem....

[Albionic68]

I always vote. Locals, Generals, Mayors, Police Commissioners and Referendums. The fkn lot.

My votes make about as much difference as a grain of sand does to the Sahara. Get enough grains of sand together during high winds and you get a sandstorm.

Sandstorms have been known to make an impact before things settle down to their normal patterns of events. I vote because it's nice to be heard. Even if you believe those at the top aren't listening make yourselves heard.

People have died so others can be heard so let the tuncs at the top know what you think at every opportunity because there's very little chance they'll read your thoughts on a football forum.

[Leicesterbaggie]

What I don’t get regarding the Labour Party is that they have been whinging on about austerity measures for the last four**** years but it was them who got us into the mess in the first place. I’m sure that they will win the next election so it will be interesting to see how they manage our problems. As for Angela Raynor, God help us!

[Omegstrat6]

I always vote. Locals, Generals, Mayors, Police Commissioners and Referendums. The fkn lot.

My votes make about as much difference as a grain of sand does to the Sahara. Get enough grains of sand together during high winds and you get a sandstorm.

Sandstorms have been known to make an impact before things settle down to their normal patterns of events. I vote because it's nice to be heard. Even if you believe those at the top aren't listening make yourselves heard.

People have died so others can be heard so let the tuncs at the top know what you think at every opportunity because there's very little chance they'll read your thoughts on a football forum.

Agree with a lot of that and always vote myself. Just be nice to actually be able to vote for a party with a manifesto I really believed in or at least one that I maybe agreed with 80% rather than 60% Tactical voting has its place but it's far from ideal.

[Dubbag]

I always vote. Locals, Generals, Mayors, Police Commissioners and Referendums. The fkn lot.

My votes make about as much difference as a grain of sand does to the Sahara. Get enough grains of sand together during high winds and you get a sandstorm.

Sandstorms have been known to make an impact before things settle down to their normal patterns of events. I vote because it's nice to be heard. Even if you believe those at the top aren't listening make yourselves heard.

People have died so others can be heard so let the tuncs at the top know what you think at every opportunity because there's very little chance they'll read your thoughts on a football forum.

Quite correct of course.

[mickd1961]

The biggest problem for me is that they all talk b o l l o x, there’s always an excuse as to why a promise has been broken.

Today it was announced we’ve had nett migration into the country of 685,000 people in the past 12 months, think about that for a moment, that’s Wembley stadium times 8 of new bodies arriving.

How many are actually viable workers and actually willing to want to work and how many are dependents who can’t or won’t work?

You’re talking about almost half the population of Birmingham turning up, it’s madness.

There’s nothing to look forward to by coming to the U.K. we should leaflet drop across the world showing what a sh it hole this country actually is, especially in the areas they’ll be stuck in!

This morning we had that snake oil salesman Richard Tice of Reform talking his brand of b o l l o x…….short of bursting dinghies mid channel there’s no solution to this issue that I can see?

Even if we put in a robust border force (which we won’t) and we were imprisoning anyone arriving illegally does anyone seriously think we’ll build enough prisons or detention centres to house these people?

It won’t be until illegals start phoning home and telling relatives that the UK is horrible that we’ll see a decline in numbers arriving and I don’t see that happening.

I’d rather a leader stand up and admit we’re pretty much f u c k ed and there’s not much we can do.

If only someone would come through who would tell it how it is and stop all the flim flam!

[Omegstrat6]

I'm about a qaurter of the way through James O'Brien's "How they broke Britain" and if half of what he says is true (and he uses a fair few quotes from the individuals concerned to illustrate his points) then definitely time for a change at this GE.

I don't live in the region and don't listen to his LBC show or watch his podcast, but since starting the book, I have watched a few clips on youtube. Yes, his style is pretty combatative and he certainly has an ego but he also comes across as pretty sharp and well read. So far, I may not agree with everything he says but do think he is right about most things. Certainly his introductory remarks in the book comparing the manner in which the British electorate have been sleepwalking themselves into the current situation over the past decade or so with that of how you might, indeed, "boil a frog" ring true.

What do others make of him if they have read the book or watched/listened to his show?

[westcountryvillain]

I used to catch him on LBC a few years ago when I had a lot of driving to do in my job, he is no doubt highly intelligent and sometimes uses this as a weapon to some poor sap who phones in, it's as if LBC hand pick them. Bit of a marmite character but knows his politics, the person I like to listen to is Andrew Marr.

[animallittle3]

I'm about a qaurter of the way through James O'Brien's "How they broke Britain" and if half of what he says is true (and he uses a fair few quotes from the individuals concerned to illustrate his points) then definitely time for a change at this GE.

I don't live in the region and don't listen to his LBC show or watch his podcast, but since starting the book, I have watched a few clips on youtube. Yes, his style is pretty combatative and he certainly has an ego but he also comes across as pretty sharp and well read. So far, I may not agree with everything he says but do think he is right about most things. Certainly his introductory remarks in the book comparing the manner in which the British electorate have been sleepwalking themselves into the current situation over the past decade or so with that of how you might, indeed, "boil a frog" ring true.

What do others make of him if they have read the book or watched/listened to his show?

To tell the truth he seems to capture everything I despise about the metropolitan type Labour voters / Party .

The looking down your nose sneering attitude to the working classes who voted for brexit .

He's absolutely no idea about anything outside his middle class London bubble .

He's the voice of the real Labour party who despise the English working class .

Folk like him have done more for Farage , UKIP and Reform than they'll ever know .