Who goes who stays?

[Rev72]

Summerville - Gone

Rutter - Gone

Gnonto - Gone

Gray - Maybe give us one last season?

[WTF11]

Meslier, Struijk, Gray (?), Ampadu, James, Joseph, Cresswell, Gelhardt, Summerville, Rutter, Gnonto, Firpo, Byram, plus the loanees like Rodon and Roberts will all go back to their "home" clubs.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Too 3 to go

Farke
Farke
Farke

Summerville seems to be beginning to believe he is too big for the club and Rutter vets from the sublime to the useless and recently all his limes have gone missing.

[norfolk white]

Blimey wtf!!!! Did you mean the lot to go?

[WTF11]

Blimey wtf!!!! Did you mean the lot to go?

Yes.

None of the "big" players will stay, one way or another, they consider themselves to be too good for the Championship. Genuinely good players like Struijk, Gray and James deserve better and have already attracted interest from PL and other, more "likely" Championship sides. The loanees will depart, and unless there is some kind of transformation in how we use those who have been disregarded and consigned to the bench for far too long, why would they want to stay for another season of bench-warming?

[bathlad61]

Will be interesting to see what happens with Cooper now, wouldnt surprise me to see him given another year, been fit & available for much of the season, sees his place taken by a CM, who has done ok, doesnt get a look in, even when changes should have been made, now maybe, because of Champ football again, possibly back in the mix again. For me thanks, but its time for fresh legs, etc, etc.

[BelfastAndy]

We're ****ed. Need a striker. A fkn proper one (or two). Bamford and Piroe ain't good (or reliable) enough. Piroe very lazy again today. Willy the yap will be gone. Summerville gone. Rutter gone. Gray....not sure. Plenty of others out there if recruitment is right. FFP issues may await.

[Sniffer999]

Meslier probably go
Gray probably stay but will want CM
Firpo probably stay
Ampadu probably stay
Gruev possibly stay
Kamara stay
Summerville gone
Gnonto gone
Rutter probably gone
Bamford stay
Piroe stay
James probably gone
Byram stay
Cooper possibly stay
Shackleton possibly stay
All loanees gone obviously
Possibly real opportunities for Joseph & Cresswell
Huge work to be done or we will languish in the championship for a couple more seasons at least.

[Monaco_Totty]

By learning from tough times & committing to improvement for the future you'll become mentally stronger & thus in football a better player, all ex-players say it & Coaches too

Those that may want away now ?
Then let them - as they won't have the mentality required for the next fight in their career path for sure, as talent alone aint good enough in getting to the top peaks.

As an athlete you're the sum total of "everything you put into your sport" & those that don't put in enough either learn from results like today or they don't - hopefully now there is a pathway for our younger ones to force their way into several positions as they'll be older & wiser & gaps in the squad will be available for sure now to grab & fill.

If Farke goes then it'll be another rebuild via another work in progression job which aint really the answer,imo, but we'll see what develops in key departments of defence, midfield & attack.

For sure, a direct no nonsense Teemu Pukki type centre-forward this season "was" the difference between Farkes Norwich & Farkes Leeds Championship teams !

An interesting few weeks ahead now, no time for moaning, shed the dead wood, regroup & get the tools for Championship winning needs using more direct methods if need be style wise before any 'pretty boys' arrivals to satisfy the PL tippy-tappy fluffball borefests which aint the answer to getting outta the EFL Championship.

[WTF11]

By learning from tough times & committing to improvement for the future you'll become mentally stronger & thus in football a better player, all ex-players say it & Coaches too

Those that may want away now ?
Then let them - as they won't have the mentality required for the next fight in their career path for sure, as talent alone aint good enough in getting to the top peaks.

As an athlete you're the sum total of "everything you put into your sport" & those that don't put in enough either learn from results like today or they don't - hopefully now there is a pathway for our younger ones to force their way into several positions as they'll be older & wiser & gaps in the squad will be available for sure now to grab & fill.

If Farke goes then it'll be another rebuild via another work in progression job which aint really the answer,imo, but we'll see what develops in key departments of defence, midfield & attack.

For sure, a direct no nonsense Teemu Pukki type centre-forward this season "was" the difference between Farkes Norwich & Farkes Leeds Championship teams !

An interesting few weeks ahead now, no time for moaning, shed the dead wood, regroup & get the tools for Championship winning needs using more direct methods if need be style wise before any 'pretty boys' arrivals to satisfy the PL tippy-tappy fluffball borefests which aint the answer to getting outta the EFL Championship.

And just where in any professional league is the first of those homiles demonstrated? Very few of those at Leeds who think they are better than the Championship show even the faintest of humility and self awareness, never mind the strength of character to show their willingness to treat failure as an opportunity to learn, in any sense whatsoever, and I don't just refer to the playing community.

Those who "want away" aren't one homogenous mass, as my earlier post suggests, they will have differing dynamics affecting their wish to find a new club, of which only a minority wil be missed, whilst the majority would be a club asset, if only they could be persuaded to stay, but that won't happen.

The younger players could have been used to rotate a squad which by the time of the international break was leggy and in need of relief. It wasn't provided and bench-warming continued to be their main activity, to the frustration of just about everyone but Der Fuhrer. That won't change unless and until he goes, and therefore if younger players wish to have more game time, they must leave LUFC, reducing our ability to develop home-grown/club=developed talent.

Not an "interesting" few weeks, there are several existentially threatening ones ahead. We have very little genuine "dead wood" amongst the playing staff (until the likes of Aaronsson, Kristensen etc return), and those who want out as I've said, will go come whatever the club does. It's more v i t a l that we clear out the sh1te that has infested those levels of management who have little or no tactical naus, and further up the management chain those who can't see that chnage is essential when all the supporters can. Top to bottom there is a root and branch clear out required, but as I have said before, the 49-ers Enterprises have not the single faintest idea as to what they are doing, nor how to make whatever it is that they see as their "vision" (whatever that might be, as I for one have no idea what it is) realised. If you have no target, you have no chance of hitting it.