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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by UlleyMiller View Post
    As a fully paid up member of a once left wing party, I wouldn't scream anything but there's definitely no widespread left wing bias in the BBC. There is a definite grouping of social policy and economic policy by many to to conveniently tie libertarian views and left wing economics together so as to suggest a left leaning bias because the BBC undoubtedly veers more towards libertarianism than authoritarianism... but it's not true to suggest that any person or political party is anchored equally to both social and economic policy as if they're bound together.

    I'm sure they must have some left leanings though, because any organisation that can get Piers Morgan and Nigel Farage inexplicably thrown onto a political debate show during a general election, must have a communist agenda.
    That's laughable, have you watched Question Time, Have I got News for You and similar programs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    That's laughable, have you watched Question Time, Have I got News for You and similar programs?
    I think you might have missed his whimsical but pertinent point of both Farage and Morgan being on QT at the same time, as well as the ludicrous amount of Farage exposure afforded to Farage compared to other similar fringe parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    That's laughable, have you watched Question Time, Have I got News for You and similar programs?
    I missed the ones where they were hammering home points about the benefits of left wing economic policy... can you point me at those?

    FYI, HIGNFY shouldn't really be considered a platform to brainwash us all into thinking a certain way. If it is, and a panel show is the danger to balance, then I'd have greater concerns about the mental resolve of viewers than about the abilities of the network.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UlleyMiller View Post
    I missed the ones where they were hammering home points about the benefits of left wing economic policy... can you point me at those?

    FYI, HIGNFY shouldn't really be considered a platform to brainwash us all into thinking a certain way. If it is, and a panel show is the danger to balance, then I'd have greater concerns about the mental resolve of viewers than about the abilities of the network.
    Plus, when assuuming Starmer gets in, the HIGNFY team will plough into him and Labour as they did with Blair in the 90s/00s. Will you Grist accept the Beeb to be right wing when that happens?

  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by UlleyMiller View Post
    I missed the ones where they were hammering home points about the benefits of left wing economic policy... can you point me at those?

    FYI, HIGNFY shouldn't really be considered a platform to brainwash us all into thinking a certain way. If it is, and a panel show is the danger to balance, then I'd have greater concerns about the mental resolve of viewers than about the abilities of the network.
    It's a panel show commissioned by the BBC and basically it satirises the current prime minister and his government.

    Same as the Graham Norton Show, all of the jokes are anti tory

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragingpup View Post
    I think you might have missed his whimsical but pertinent point of both Farage and Morgan being on QT at the same time, as well as the ludicrous amount of Farage exposure afforded to Farage compared to other similar fringe parties.
    Or ignored it.

    Farage is only behind a select few (8 in total) political dinosaurs in appearance numbers (Ken Clarke, Shirley Williams, Paddy Ashdown, etc) which is impressive given his time in parliament.

    Whimsically, other regulars who appear to have evaded the left wing lockdown efforts include:
    Tim Montgomerie
    Tim Stanley
    Isabel Oakeshott
    Peter Hitchens
    Camilla Tominey
    Tom Harwood
    Olivia Utley
    JHB
    Claire Fox, all of whom seem to serve little purpose other than to drop onto QT, Daily Politics, GB News, the far right of Twitter...

    ...and the likes of Camilla Cavendish and Guto Harri, who would hardly fall on the left of the party they once worked for.

    But, yeah, admittedly, Mick Lynch has been on a couple of times too, so....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    It's a panel show commissioned by the BBC and basically it satirises the current prime minister and his government.

    Same as the Graham Norton Show, all of the jokes are anti tory
    Satire goes after government for its failings... colour me shocked.

    Are you too young to remember the Blair years, Brown endlessly being ripped for his breathing...? Or just blinkered/paranoid (del. as appr.)?

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    If anything the issue with the BBC is it's obligation to be 'balanced'. As Emily Maitlis put it:

    “It might take our producers five minutes to find 60 economists who feared Brexit and five hours to find a sole voice who espoused it.

    “But by the time we went on air we simply had one of each; we presented this unequal effort to our audience as balance. It wasn’t.”

  9. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by UlleyMiller View Post
    I missed the ones where they were hammering home points about the benefits of left wing economic policy...
    You're saying there are benefits of left wing economic policy?

    Last time they drove the bus into the terminus Liam Byrne left a note in the cab saying, "Dear Chief Secretary, I'm afraid there is no money. Kind regards – and good luck! Liam."

    That type of left wing economic policy, or are you saying there's another type?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternal Optimist View Post
    You're saying there are benefits of left wing economic policy?

    Last time they drove the bus into the terminus Liam Byrne left a note in the cab saying, "Dear Chief Secretary, I'm afraid there is no money. Kind regards – and good luck! Liam."

    That type of left wing economic policy, or are you saying there's another type?
    For info, "That note echoed Chancellor Reginald Maudling's note to James Callaghan: "Good luck, old cock ... Sorry to leave it in such a mess." after the Conservatives' defeat at the 1964 election."

    So guess that makes it 1-1? I'm backing Jeremy Hunt to win the tie break for the tories...

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