Quote Originally Posted by frogmiller View Post
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...221-1/fulltext

I thought that the UK didn't have excess deaths.

Several causes, including cardiovascular diseases, show a relative excess greater than that seen in deaths from all-causes (9%) over the same period (week ending 3rd June 2022–30th June 2023), namely: all cardiovascular diseases (12%), heart failure (20%), ischaemic heart diseases (15%), liver diseases (19%), acute respiratory infections (14%), and diabetes (13%).6

For middle-aged adults (50–64) in this 13-month period, the relative excess for almost all causes of death examined was higher than that seen for all ages. Deaths involving cardiovascular diseases were 33% higher than expected, while for specific cardiovascular diseases, deaths involving ischaemic heart diseases were 44% higher, cerebrovascular diseases 40% higher and heart failure 39% higher. Deaths involving acute respiratory infections were 43% higher than expected and for diabetes, deaths were 35% higher. Deaths involving liver diseases were 19% higher than expected for those aged 50–64, the same as for deaths at all ages.9
Who said that the UK isn't experiencing excess deaths?

It's hardly surprising given that the country has just experienced a pandemic of a disease that can damage multi organs, has poor health generally and has a failing health system.

New Zealand is the country that antivaxxers don't like to talk about (unless they're talking bollox). In 2021 around 95% of its population received COVID vaccines and showed a negative excess deaths.