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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    Yes.

    New Zealand was able to almost completely prevent the widespread circulation of covid in 2020 and 2021 by the use of closed borders and internal restrictions. It experienced negative excess deaths in both years (including during the mass vaccination campaign conducted in 2021). In February 2022 the country began to lift border restrictions and there were covid outbreaks. Unsurprisingly, they coincided with a level of excess deaths in 2022 and 2023.

    The ten countries with the lowest excess deaths by % (New Zealand, Denmark, Australia, Norway, Canada, Sweden, Iceland, Finland, Germany and Malta) are also ten of the most highly vaccinated. By way of contrast, the 10 countries with the highest excess deaths (North-Macedonia, Albania, Bulgaria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Lithuania, Serbia, Montenegro, Slovakia, Kosovo and Moldova) have much lower vaccination rates.

    Go figure.
    And a rough correlation with population density for the excess deaths ??

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    The capacity of people that seem to be able to see different points of view are able to make their points using their opponents preferred medium.

    I have used The Lancet knowing that it’s trusted by others.

    The fact that they seem to be changing their stance should be worry some to those that trust it🤔

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    Quote Originally Posted by frogmiller View Post
    The capacity of people that seem to be able to see different points of view are able to make their points using their opponents preferred medium.

    I have used The Lancet knowing that it’s trusted by others.

    The fact that they seem to be changing their stance should be worry some to those that trust it��
    Science develops over time as the understanding of an issue increases. It would be more alarming if the stance on an issue did not change in response to those increased levels of understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    Science develops over time as the understanding of an issue increases. It would be more alarming if the stance on an issue did not change in response to those increased levels of understanding.
    From both sides?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frogmiller View Post
    From both sides?
    What do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    And a rough correlation with population density for the excess deaths ??
    I don’t know if any research has been conducted on the correlation between excess deaths and population density.

    The emerging picture of excess deaths is that they are highest in those countries that fared badly at reducing the spread of the virus through unvaccinated populations and it seems inevitable to me that higher population densities would favour faster spread. The UK was poor at reducing spread, but is highly vaccinated.

    Countries like NZ which was very successful at reducing spread and then quickly vaccinated its population fared best, for reasons that are obvious to me.

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