Election Year or Fear!

[MadAmster]

Here's something for far right Reformists in terms they might understand regarding the things they believe about immigrants. It's known as Schrodingers Immigrant It won't load as a JPG or a PNG file from my laptop or with [IMG] at either end of the link. If all else fails just copy and paste the link below...

https://www.reddit.com/r/GreenAndPle...ant/?rdt=35334

[Trickytreesreds]

Here's something for far right Reformists in terms they might understand regarding the things they believe about immigrants. It's known as Schrodingers Immigrant It won't load as a JPG or a PNG file from my laptop or with [IMG] at either end of the link. If all else fails just copy and paste the link below...

https://www.reddit.com/r/GreenAndPle...ant/?rdt=35334

Yes,
Come here, with a large family(bring it later), take a low paid job and it entitles you to the whole she bang.
Pay nothing in, yet take out.
Big business is happy with a low paid work force pool, yet the onus moves on to lack of housing/prices. Services over loaded and social issues.
As ever the poor suffer the most in quality of life.

No tax limit raise/ more training eduction/ youngsters get firts dibs on all starter jobs/ make firms pay a better wage. Then more pay tax than currently are.

At the moment we are addcited to cheap , imported labour at the expense of our own youngsters. Not everyone goes to college / university and they are the ones becoming an under class. We are on a one way ticket to becoming a 2nd world country the way we treat our young. GDP per capita is going through the floor.

[MadAmster]

Yes,
Come here, with a large family(bring it later), take a low paid job and it entitles you to the whole she bang.
Pay nothing in, yet take out.
Big business is happy with a low paid work force pool, yet the onus moves on to lack of housing/prices. Services over loaded and social issues.
As ever the poor suffer the most in quality of life.

No tax limit raise/ more training eduction/ youngsters get firts dibs on all starter jobs/ make firms pay a better wage. Then more pay tax than currently are.

At the moment we are addcited to cheap , imported labour at the expense of our own youngsters. Not everyone goes to college / university and they are the ones becoming an under class. We are on a one way ticket to becoming a 2nd world country the way we treat our young. GDP per capita is going through the floor.

All posted by you without a single trustworthy, verifiable source.

The IFS states that immigrants pay, on average, 10% more in taxes than they receive in benefits. For "native British" that's a mere 5% more.

The IFS (or was it the DWP?) states that immigrants have not forced wage levels down.

TTR and Farridge know better than IFS/DWP but can't/won't supply trustworthy, verifiable sources.

[Andy_Faber]

All posted by you without a single trustworthy, verifiable source.

The IFS states that immigrants pay, on average, 10% more in taxes than they receive in benefits. For "native British" that's a mere 5% more.

The IFS (or was it the DWP?) states that immigrants have not forced wage levels down.

TTR and Farridge know better than IFS/DWP but can't/won't supply trustworthy, verifiable sources.

I think you’re missing TTR/garages point, the average here is massively skewed by immigrants we DO want. The IFS themselves confirm that it’s skewed by high earners, and that the profile excluding (im estimating) top top 5% that you think should be taxed more anyway means most take years to be net contributors, many (it’s inflammatory to say most) never get there. However I’m guessing the high earners exclude the Albanians who now control the UK’s cocaine trade though, so that’s something. Phew!

[MadAmster]

I think you’re missing TTR/garages point, the average here is massively skewed by immigrants we DO want. The IFS themselves confirm that it’s skewed by high earners, and that the profile excluding (im estimating) top top 5% that you think should be taxed more anyway means most take years to be net contributors, many (it’s inflammatory to say most) never get there. However I’m guessing the high earners exclude the Albanians who now control the UK’s cocaine trade though, so that’s something. Phew!

Get Starmer in and with his expert "toolkit" on smashing gangs, he's got more chance of getting at them than Sunak, IMO. Same goes for the people smugglers.

IMO, there are some "pan European" agreements that the UK really should rejoin. There's the immigration group for one, I forget its name. If BoJo hadn't taken us out of that one we'd have far less of an issue with "boat people" than we currently have. Then there's the police cooperation unit which we also left, another BoJo error. There are probably other areas where pan European cooperation would aid both the EU and the UK. None of which would involve the UK requiring EU membership or rejoining the Customs Union or requiring Freedom of Movement. The question is, will both sides be sensible enough to see the mutual benefit and reinstate those agreements that were erroneously dumped?

[Trickytreesreds]

Get Starmer in and with his expert "toolkit" on smashing gangs, he's got more chance of getting at them than Sunak, IMO. Same goes for the people smugglers.

IMO, there are some "pan European" agreements that the UK really should rejoin. There's the immigration group for one, I forget its name. If BoJo hadn't taken us out of that one we'd have far less of an issue with "boat people" than we currently have. Then there's the police cooperation unit which we also left, another BoJo error. There are probably other areas where pan European cooperation would aid both the EU and the UK. None of which would involve the UK requiring EU membership or rejoining the Customs Union or requiring Freedom of Movement. The question is, will both sides be sensible enough to see the mutual benefit and reinstate those agreements that were erroneously dumped?

propaganda.
Has Starmer, or Europe stopped the drug trade?
Has Europe stopped the gamgs exporting them into Europe?

No it bloody hasn't. Only way is to cut out the market. If there was no drug users, or party packages for immigrants there would be no business model.
You're living in dream land maddy, if you think suits signing fancy agreements solves anything.

All I'll say to you is Poland. Deployed the army, tossed back any that made it miles inland. It stopped, dead. Though I didn't go and take loads of pictures for you, to prove it.