O/T attack in Southport.

[Yak]

You talk about propaganda and yet the disturbances in Southport that you ‘explained’ and excused earlier in the thread were almost certainly kicked off by the hoax identification of the suspect that did the rounds on the internet and which has unquestioningly been reproduced by a couple of posters on here.

I’m not certain that you are in the group that you believe that you are in.

Where have I excused it?
I was saying it’s how people feel.
I said I don’t agree with the riots.
If you think it was just down to misinformation of this incident then you are naive.
It’s the culmination of events where it’s 2 tier policing and reporting of information.
The soldier getting attacked.
The constant accusation of being accused of being right wing because you speak up and I’m mixed race but still get accused.
The narrative of all the illegal immigrants looking for a better life which simply isn’t true.
I posted on the other thread that some Muslims have condemned the idiots at Manchester Airport and it’s unfair to judge them all the same which you’ve chosen to ignore which sums up the situation. You are either left or right wing i am neither.
I’ve suffered racism all my life but I’m clever enough to not tar all white people with the same brush.
I see what I see and it’s controlled narrative of information.

[KerrAvon]

Where have I excused it?
I was saying it’s how people feel.
I said I don’t agree with the riots.
If you think it was just down to misinformation of this incident then you are naive.
It’s the culmination of events where it’s 2 tier policing and reporting of information.
The soldier getting attacked.
The constant accusation of being accused of being right wing because you speak up and I’m mixed race but still get accused.
The narrative of all the illegal immigrants looking for a better life which simply isn’t true.
I posted on the other thread that some Muslims have condemned the idiots at Manchester Airport and it’s unfair to judge them all the same which you’ve chosen to ignore which sums up the situation. You are either left or right wing i am neither.
I’ve suffered racism all my life but I’m clever enough to not tar all white people with the same brush.
I see what I see and it’s controlled narrative of information.

You excused it when you sought to explain away the reasons for it. Read what you wrote. Tacking on the obligatory ‘I don’t agree’ doesn’t change that.

You think I’m naïve. That’s fair enough as the feeling is mutual. What other purpose do you think the hoax identification had other than to cause trouble? It was designed to press all the buttons of a certain section of society – ‘mental health’, ‘known the to the security services’ – there’s even a variant that says he came to the UK on a small boat last week. And it worked. You have to look no further than this thread and posts like yours in which you fantasied about shooting him in the back of the head.

Do you think people turned up with balaclavas on the hottest day of the year and congregated on a mosque by accident?

I have great deal of respect for you as a poster and I appreciate that this isn’t a pleasant post, but, seriously, if you think that you have an ability to see through propaganda and not be influenced by it, you need to think again.

[Yak]

Kerr I didn’t say it didn’t Contribute what was put on social media I said it wasn’t just down to that. Yes of course it had an impact but I don’t believe that was just the cause.
The shooting comment wasn’t fantasising I just said I’d happily do it. Probably with my military background I would find it easier although that may sound uncomfortable to some that’s just how it is.
There has to be a more objective way of looking at this hence my comment about judging all Muslims the same.
I respect your views as always but my belief is that this has been brewing for a long time and violence against police etc is not the answer but it is going to lead to far worse. That’s not me condoning it more just understanding where the anger is coming from.