Election Year or Fear!

[Trickytreesreds]

Tricky…the day will never arrive when you can ‘educate’ me…or just about anyone else on here for that matter.

Your output over the recent days of unrest simply illustrates your excitement and excitability…just like all the other morons running around causing wanton destruction.

You’ve had ‘plenty of scuffles of your own, thanks’ comment speaks volumes and I’d guess no one on here is greatly surprised that you’d be the only one on here to boast about such matters…be they fact or, more likely, fiction.

I note you’ve skilfully, for you, avoided my question about your claim regarding being called into action to support prison officers against violent inmates and I continue to doubt it ever happened.

Really don’t know what to make of you, you come across as a bit of a cu…sorry…conundrum. Part of you is clearly over aroused and excited by the violent scenes that currently plague some of our streets while another part advocates the serenity and tranquility to be found in Thailand. Part of you wants to belittle women while another seeks to at least go through the motions of protecting them, while finally half of you condemns migrants, particularly Muslims and those desperate enough to cross the channel on small boats, while another part is about to either become a migrant in Thailand, or ‘take’ a Thai migrant wife. Make your mind up…it’s all becoming a little ‘split personality’…and I’d be very careful when introducing your new bride to be to any of those EDL sympathising ‘mates’ of yours.

OH RA, SO PREDICTABLE.
1. I am not excited as you call it, but in no way the least surprised this has happened. I have been saying it for years and here it is. YOU on the other hand dont believe immigration is an issue and have said so on numerous occasions. You even rebuked the polling topics having it as a top 3 topic. Mainly because you live in an area that sees very little of what winds others up. That denial of yours runs all the way up to the political elite.

2. Scuffles? being come at with a 24mm spanner and punched from behind in another event resulted in said, scuffles. What do think happens when 2 prisoners decide to knock 10 bells out each other? You step in best you can and hit the alarm button on the radio. The door bursts open and many iniforms come piling through the dootr to help you. You do get hurt, its not a nice place.

3.I deplore female violence/ rights abuse. i do not excuse them being taken advantage of, either by trans rights or men posing as women in sport. You and the left having swinging gauge where women are concerned, You do allow them to be abused, if its another minority doing it. I suppose you have written a nasty letter to JK Rowling as well. Neither should women be put into jobs that puts them in danger and others as well, due to physical restrictions. Like I asked you, do you advicate women being in the SAS OR SBS? You ignored that one.

[Trickytreesreds]

Indeed GP…although that wasn’t actually my point and, on the subject of numbers, you may wish to check your own definition of ‘plenty’ given that I don’t think there are ever ‘plenty’ on here these days.
Still I’m willing to learn from anyone, even you…just don’t believe Captain YouTube has any capacity to ‘educate’ anyone on here other than about bigotry, bitterness, intolerance, prejudice and the power of disinformation and hyperbole.

There you go again, the captain youtube jibe. There really is no pleasing your gripes is there. You deny things and scream for evidence I give it and you refuse to watch it.

Let me remind you of over a year ago, I called out the police for bending the law, being corrupt and abusing folks civil rights. You went off on one. Saying the police were wonderful and refused to believe a word of it.
Look at you now.
You suddenly have doubts and the police do have wrong ens among them and you suddenly don't quite trust them anymore.
If you'd watched the videos you'd have learned something.
The days have gone, where the population had to believe everything the government/tv/papers told them. Everyone has a video camera in their pocket.

[Trickytreesreds]

Farage spot on, Starmer needs to grow a spine and face up to the cause not the sympton

Farage 'appalled' by violence - says army should be considered
Reform UK leader Nigel Farage has now joined the calls for parliament to be recalled.

Posting on social media, he says he is "totally appalled by the levels of violence seen in the last couple of days".

He goes on to blame "soft" policing of Black Lives Matter protests for creating the appearance of "two-tier policing".

Mr Farage then claims a "population explosion without integration was always going to end badly".

"We must have a more honest debate about these ***** issues and give people the confidence that there are political solutions that are relevant to them," he says.

"A recall of parliament would be an appropriate start to this."

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-riots-...#liveblog-body

[Trickytreesreds]

Sometimes you have to listen to places some of them come from.

Amjad Taha أمجد طه reposted
Amjad Taha أمجد طه
@amjadt25
Send ministers, not riot police, to listen to the #EnoughIsEnough protesters! In a true democracy, citizens have the right to voice their concerns and oppose policies like Muslim Brotherhood immigration. We in the Middle East have expelled them; why should you give them a home at the expense of your own country's safety? If you deploy forces to protect a mosque but fail to safeguard a nursery, perhaps you should be governing in Hamas-controlled areas in Gaza or ISIS-controlled regions in Syria, not in England. Protect everyone, or you fail as a leader.

When young people witness tragedies like babies being harmed and the government fails to protect them, their anger is justified. Don’t silence these voices—address the root causes. By stifling dissent, you hand extremists the narrative they crave. This isn’t about racism or political ideology; it’s about loving your country and holding leaders accountable for protecting their citizens. In my country, the UAE, the Muslim Brotherhood is banned.

#london #FarRight
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https://twitter.com/amjadt25

[Andy_Faber]

I don’t deny that there is a serious debate to be had regarding aspects of multiculturalism and the whole issue of migration .

An enlightening admission from you, and IMO lack of such a debate is IMO one of the drivers of this weekend's troubles. The other is the rise of social media as a means by which people with similar views, be they to one's taste or not, can find one another and find they are not alone.

To me its a bit like Brexit, where the great and the good pointed the populace in one direction, and in their lofty ignorance assumed they would prevail, but the plebs had a different view and made it count. In the same way, the way to harmony IMO is not to just keep repeating the words 'multiculturalism' and 'diversity' in every sentence but to accept that there are many and deep rooted problems (from and affecting all groups including the majorities) and work 'em through openly and fairly

[MadAmster]

Just a few things...

1. The IBA, that banned Khelif last year is a Russian led organisation that has been, itself, dropped by the IOC for, amongst other things, financial irregularities, questionable leadership, dodgy referees and ditto judges.

2. Khelifa was born with a vagina and a uterus and a womb... yet she's a man? Hmmm.

3. What a surprise to find that the decision to ban her came shortly after Khelif beat Russian boxer Azalia Amineva, who was previously undefeated. Sour grapes from the Russians?

4. Khelif, her coaches and the Algerian Boxing Board have yet to receive any of the "IBA evidence"

5. Prior to the disputable decision from the IBA, there are no instances of Khelifa failing "femininity tests"

6. Angela Carini, the Italian boxer who started this whole affair by quitting after 46 seconds of the bout, has since apologised to Khelif.


Next, the riots. There does appear to be a 2 tier approach by the police. there's footage of police, in an previous disturbance in IIRC Leeds, telling Asians that they should throw their weapons away, disperse and no-one would be arrested. That was a huge mistake IMO.

Following the horrendous stabbings in Southport, the police were adamant in their reports that there was no Muslim connection. Turns out the suspect was born in Wales and is a Catholic. One with, it appears, a lot of mental health issues. Autistic, bullied and not taken seriously, apparently, by the necessary authorities. The rioters response to this abhorrent act by a Catholic? Attack mosques and hotels thought to be housing asylum seekers...

One thing I'd do is ban all face coverings at these "protests". If they aren't allowed to riot anonymously and know they'll be arrested for wearing face coverings, they, with a handful of exceptions, won't even turn up to riot.

[Andy_Faber]

Just a few things...

1. The IBA, that banned Khelif last year is a Russian led organisation that has been, itself, dropped by the IOC for, amongst other things, financial irregularities, questionable leadership, dodgy referees and ditto judges.

2. Khelifa was born with a vagina and a uterus and a womb... yet she's a man? Hmmm.

3. What a surprise to find that the decision to ban her came shortly after Khelif beat Russian boxer Azalia Amineva, who was previously undefeated. Sour grapes from the Russians?

4. Khelif, her coaches and the Algerian Boxing Board have yet to receive any of the "IBA evidence"

5. Prior to the disputable decision from the IBA, there are no instances of Khelifa failing "femininity tests"

6. Angela Carini, the Italian boxer who started this whole affair by quitting after 46 seconds of the bout, has since apologised to Khelif.


Next, the riots. There does appear to be a 2 tier approach by the police. there's footage of police, in an previous disturbance in IIRC Leeds, telling Asians that they should throw their weapons away, disperse and no-one would be arrested. That was a huge mistake IMO.

Following the horrendous stabbings in Southport, the police were adamant in their reports that there was no Muslim connection. Turns out the suspect was born in Wales and is a Catholic. One with, it appears, a lot of mental health issues. Autistic, bullied and not taken seriously, apparently, by the necessary authorities. The rioters response to this abhorrent act by a Catholic? Attack mosques and hotels thought to be housing asylum seekers...

One thing I'd do is ban all face coverings at these "protests". If they aren't allowed to riot anonymously and know they'll be arrested for wearing face coverings, they, with a handful of exceptions, won't even turn up to riot.

Well summarised. Regarding As I've written before, I don't see the fuss, she's a she and if all characteristics that give athletes an advantage are removed/outlawed we ARE in trouble

Regarding the 'troubles', yes I've seen that too, and such behaviour by 'the law' will just inflame feelings further. The more general point about the softer approach to policing BLM troubles also applies, all such inequities are adding fuel to the TTR fire

Law of probability says he was most likely Catholic, Rwanda's nearly 100% Christian although I don't know the mix. I'm sure you realise that yobbos don't need much of an excuse to shape-shift their ire from African Christian to Asian Muslim if that's their preferred target. Mobs of young Asians shouting Allah U Aqbah isn't helping cool things of course

I believe there's been some emergency legislation put in place to ban face coverings

Not sure if you saw UK news last eve, but one of the flashpoints was around a 'migrant hotel' where a load of well-meaning but out of their depth old folk were holding an 'Immigrants Welcome' banner. Well of course it all kicked off, but a vid clip later in the day shows one of the oldies sitting on a bench right in the middle of the kerfuffle clutching a plastic bag and looking like he was a cricket fan waiting for the teams to come out on a dull day, as bottles, bricks and insults flew around him. Good for him and his persistence

[MadAmster]

Well summarised. Regarding As I've written before, I don't see the fuss, she's a she and if all characteristics that give athletes an advantage are removed/outlawed we ARE in trouble

Regarding the 'troubles', yes I've seen that too, and such behaviour by 'the law' will just inflame feelings further. The more general point about the softer approach to policing BLM troubles also applies, all such inequities are adding fuel to the TTR fire

Law of probability says he was most likely Catholic, Rwanda's nearly 100% Christian although I don't know the mix. I'm sure you realise that yobbos don't need much of an excuse to shape-shift their ire from African Christian to Asian Muslim if that's their preferred target. Mobs of young Asians shouting Allah U Aqbah isn't helping cool things of course

I believe there's been some emergency legislation put in place to ban face coverings

Not sure if you saw UK news last eve, but one of the flashpoints was around a 'migrant hotel' where a load of well-meaning but out of their depth old folk were holding an 'Immigrants Welcome' banner. Well of course it all kicked off, but a vid clip later in the day shows one of the oldies sitting on a bench right in the middle of the kerfuffle clutching a plastic bag and looking like he was a cricket fan waiting for the teams to come out on a dull day, as bottles, bricks and insults flew around him. Good for him and his persistence

Quirks of nature happen. Sometimes a person has just the 1, sometimes a person can have several. One such person was Michael Phelps who has a ridiculously wide "wing span" which will aid swimming quickly, double jointed elbows and ankles which also aided him plus lungs with double the average capacity. There was no call to ban him despite him having a physical advantage over more "normal" humans. Quite rightly so, too, IMO.

One's physical make up will always help. Usain Bolt or Linford Christie wouldn't have had a chance of winning a Marathon.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Quirks of nature happen. Sometimes a person has just the 1, sometimes a person can have several. One such person was Michael Phelps who has a ridiculously wide "wing span" which will aid swimming quickly, double jointed elbows and ankles which also aided him plus lungs with double the average capacity. There was no call to ban him despite him having a physical advantage over more "normal" humans. Quite rightly so, too, IMO.

One's physical make up will always help. Usain Bolt or Linford Christie wouldn't have had a chance of winning a Marathon.

I am minded of a book I read in secondary school, although for the life of me I don't remember what it was. But in a futuristic world (maybe 2005!) all people were assessed for particular genetic etc attributes and those with particular advantages were given handicaps so as to level everyone down. I sometimes wonder if that book is now proving prophetic.

[ramAnag]

OH RA, SO PREDICTABLE.
1. I am not excited as you call it, but in no way the least surprised this has happened. I have been saying it for years and here it is. YOU on the other hand dont believe immigration is an issue and have said so on numerous occasions. You even rebuked the polling topics having it as a top 3 topic. Mainly because you live in an area that sees very little of what winds others up. That denial of yours runs all the way up to the political elite.

2. Scuffles? being come at with a 24mm spanner and punched from behind in another event resulted in said, scuffles. What do think happens when 2 prisoners decide to knock 10 bells out each other? You step in best you can and hit the alarm button on the radio. The door bursts open and many iniforms come piling through the dootr to help you. You do get hurt, its not a nice place.

3.I deplore female violence/ rights abuse. i do not excuse them being taken advantage of, either by trans rights or men posing as women in sport. You and the left having swinging gauge where women are concerned, You do allow them to be abused, if its another minority doing it. I suppose you have written a nasty letter to JK Rowling as well. Neither should women be put into jobs that puts them in danger and others as well, due to physical restrictions. Like I asked you, do you advicate women being in the SAS OR SBS? You ignored that one.

Tricky, one only has to look at when you contribute…the Dutch elections, the French elections (first round), the current rioting.
It all gets you going and you gleefully adopt, your excited ‘I told you so’ mode time and time again.

Where I live has nothing to do with anything. It’s a choice I made years ago and I’m far from being the only one on here who lives in what you describe as an ‘elite’ area. You may as well say that because I don’t live in poverty I have no right to comment on those that do.

As regards women…if women pass the training to join the SAS etc I would have no complaints. It’s not an area I, or I suspect you, can claim any expertise in but we come from an age when few women drove, there were no businesswomen or female headteachers/GP’s and the idea of a woman driving an HGV, a bus or piloting an plane would have been completely alien. Times change…try and keep up!