Election Year or Fear!

[Geoff Parkstone]

I actually don't know "what goes on" in #55 and nor I suspect do you. It's a "home" for a number of right wing/centre right pressure groups, but equally I'm sure there are a similar number of left wing/centre left pressure groups dotted around the country. That doesn't make any of them innately evil, unless you close one eye.

[Geoff Parkstone]

It's interesting that you describe the right wingers you dislike as sinister. Interesting given that sinister means left in the original Latin.

So right is left in the world of linguistics and left is right in the world of rA 😀😀

[swaledale]

I actually don't know "what goes on" in #55 and nor I suspect do you. It's a "home" for a number of right wing/centre right pressure groups, but equally I'm sure there are a similar number of left wing/centre left pressure groups dotted around the country. That doesn't make any of them innately evil, unless you close one eye.

Its where Truss got most of her crazy ideas and indeed funding from. The activities of 55 Tufton Street is well documented, but its funding is not, very opaque. I'm sure there are a number of left wing or left of centre research/ pressure groups. None of them however seem to have the influence exerted by 55.

I admire your naivety, but it is well documented the extent to which billionaires are funding people like Farage in the UK and Trump in the US whose stated aim is that democracy is a threat to the libertarian view point that the rich should be able to dictate what happens and those who are wage slaves should be told what to do and have no influence.

[ramAnag]

It's interesting that you describe the right wingers you dislike as sinister. Interesting given that sinister means left in the original Latin.

So right is left in the world of linguistics and left is right in the world of rA 😀😀

Have it your own way, GP. I’ve mentioned it before and what Swale confirms is true, though doubtless you’ll just think it’s the two of us acting in cahoots. It isn’t and I think they’re all worth keeping an eye on. Your choice.

[Geoff Parkstone]

"I'm sure there are a number of left wing or left of centre research/ pressure groups. None of them however seem to have the influence exerted by 55."

Given that the last 14 years have seen a Tory government it is unsurprising to see those pressure groups have exerted influence. I'm sure in the years of the Blair-Brown axis that left wing think tanks influenced their policy.

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[ramAnag]

It's interesting that you describe the right wingers you dislike as sinister. Interesting given that sinister means left in the original Latin.

So right is left in the world of linguistics and left is right in the world of rA ����

More a case of ‘Left is right, and Right is wrong’, generally speaking…in my world, GP.
Ultimately though…where the Mercers, Musks and Tufton Street brigade etc are concerned, it takes little imagination to see how they would all favour the maintenance, or worse, of the status quo as far as inequality and the distribution of wealth, amongst other things, are concerned.

[Geoff Parkstone]

I might modify that slightly. Extremes of left or right are wrong, centre left and centre right are acceptable. Will Starmer deliver centre left or drift left? Can the Tories regain the centre right and control the extremes / recover electability?

Then we might have something closer to democracy rather than wild swings in vast majorities. Will the malign nfluences of the unions or international business continue to dominate the political landscape until death takes our generation away from it?

At present both centrist elements seem like 2 bald headed men arguing about a comb -. whilst wig makers look on offering alluring alternatives.

[Trickytreesreds]

1) Where have I compared a head teacher getting tough with an armed terrorist in a knife fight?

2) I’ve been in Europe for four of the last six weeks. The only trouble I’ve seen has been back in the UK on TV with those you support attacking mosques, police vehicles and hotels.

3) How can Starmer not take sides? Any decent minded individual would stand opposed to what we are currently seeing on our streets. For you of all people to call him a ‘buffoon’ is laughable and for you not to utterly condemn right wing thugs involving themselves in arson and, imo, attempted murder speaks volumes.

P.S. Against my better judgement I watched some of Farage’s stomach churning interview. Wake up Tricky…it’s nothing more than ‘I told you so’ GB News/Farage TV. Who in their right mind would take notice of that?

Ok, (takes breath)
1. You used a woman head teacher / pilot etc as an example of women doing top jobs. Yes we know this. At what point do you fail to grasp the concept, that certain jobs, make a woman vulnerable, purely because of nature?
The game you are playing was palyed out at the start of the 20th century. THAT'S GONE. You are skipping over the fact, that 2 WPC's were sparked out by 1 individual in the blink of an eye. Not their fault. The 2 men carried on scrapping.

2. Being in Europe is no excuse. There are news outlets from all over the world and many many reports through platforms like Youtube. WHERE EXACTLY AM i DEFENDING THOSE DOING THE ATTACKING. Again, you let your personal opinion form a lie and falsehood.
I have condemned all violence in here. What I have called out, is Starmers inadequecy to look at the big picture and not the sympton.

3. Starmer taking side. (sigh) So Starmer labelling everyone who has an opinion far right and not just the agitators is not taking sides? You want to see some videos of muslims roaming the streets armed with knives as well? Him and the media have simply put this squarely on far right extremism. The reality is it isn't, not everyone not rioting doesn't believe there is a major issue here. What you have seen is a tip of the ice berg. There are millions of disgruntled people in this country. The tv has shown a 75 year old grandma arrested for waving a placaard , ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
Perhaps you missed the Sky news reporter showing gangs of muslims/ hooded up/masked/tooled up gathering, before she was abused and threatened by one on a bike waving a machete?

My question to you, take the knee Starmer and the Police, was why was you less angry when the BLM riots were burning the place down? looting/ attacking the police.

ANOTHER THOUGHT FOR YOU. Why has the right wing risen all over Europe.
There is a common denominator here and it was / is all caused by various governments policies.
There is a distinct lack of terror attacks/ targetted abuse in eastern europe for a reason.

[Trickytreesreds]

How can anyone compare the BLM protests that happened here with the current riots?

They were mostly peaceful, certainly have no recollection of cities burning.

You have a select memory sith, and put the rear gunner back in his seat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George...United_Kingdom

[Trickytreesreds]

Douglas Murray , tell it like it is brother.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxUP77Z55Oc