Election Year or Fear!

[ramAnag]

RA, its not Brexit.
Its Europe, slowly but surely tightening, their borders where these "chancers" are concerned. Denmark/ Sweden/Holland/ Germany are all saying no and cutting out the money they have been getting.
That's not to their liking, so they are heading west, to the sofest touch. Currently us.
Because we are so soft, we are accepting double or treble the amount qualifying in Europe. Why? Because they toss their papers away and we have to take their word for it, on where they come from.
The minute we stop putting folks in social housing and paying out freebies, as well as sorting out the black economy. Then it will fall drastically. 80% Single men under 35. In the year to the end of June 2024, he largest number of UK asylum seekers came from Afghanistan - 9,342. Other big countries for applications were Iran, Pakistan, Vietnam, India, and Bangladesh. In 2022, Albanians were the top nationality with more than 17,300 people (including dependants) claiming asylum. Three quarters arrived on small boats. Its wrong.

My point was that it’s yet another example of a complete Brexit failure. Made it harder and more expensive for ordinary U.K. folk to get around Europe. Made it more complicated to trade with Europe. Compromised security arrangements between ourselves and Europe but look at the figures for arrivals by boat…just look at what has happened here since 2019.

Also, according to the EUAA, Germany, Spain and Italy are the most common European destinations for asylum seekers while worldwide, according to Statista…Iran, Turkey, Germany (again), Pakistan and Uganda make up the top 5 with the UK coming in at 20th.

The migrant crisis is a major issue, I agree, but if it is to be solved it will be via joined up thought and policies, compassion and international cooperation, not bigoted nationalistic nonsense.

[Trickytreesreds]

My point was that it’s yet another example of a complete Brexit failure. Made it harder and more expensive for ordinary U.K. folk to get around Europe. Made it more complicated to trade with Europe. Compromised security arrangements between ourselves and Europe but look at the figures for arrivals by boat…just look at what has happened here since 2019.

Also, according to the EUAA, Germany, Spain and Italy are the most common European destinations for asylum seekers while worldwide, according to Statista…Iran, Turkey, Germany (again), Pakistan and Uganda make up the top 5 with the UK coming in at 20th.

The migrant crisis is a major issue, I agree, but if it is to be solved it will be via joined up thought and policies, compassion and international cooperation, not bigoted nationalistic nonsense.

You was doing ever so well for a while.

It is NOT Brexit failure, ITS AN EU FAILURE. The EU borders have been as tight as a sieve for years. Only now are they realising they have messed up. Schengan made it worse, with travel being ever so easy and the terrorists loved it.

The demographics alone of who is coming and paying for the criminals to do so, should bother any nation.
Under 35 single men. This isn't a compassion situation at all. Its economic migration , hiding behind asylum.

I'm glad you finally accept it is now a major issue. You didn't want to for a long time. It is now the number 1 concern in the UK.
Every life lost to one of these illegals, is blood on the hands of politicians failing to do their jobs.
Why is it bigoted to want secure borders? It is horse **** like that, that has allowed this problem to explode.
You want international cooperation, better start with your EU mates.
Your country list is misleading. Iran/ Turkey/Pakistan/Uganda are the neighbouring countries of the trouble zones. Germany is only on that list, because of Merkels madness. Something the Germans now acknowledge and has see a massive swing to the right in its politics because of it.
Austria have now joined Germany in deporting back to Afghanistan, defying all the moaning from the ECHR.

If paying £6 for entry into Europe is all you can moan about, then god help you. I'd sooner know who is in and out and the country better protected. You're a well travelled man, I'm sure you have been to countries that take their border checks very seriously.

[ramAnag]

You was doing ever so well for a while.

It is NOT Brexit failure, ITS AN EU FAILURE. The EU borders have been as tight as a sieve for years. Only now are they realising they have messed up. Schengan made it worse, with travel being ever so easy and the terrorists loved it.

The demographics alone of who is coming and paying for the criminals to do so, should bother any nation.
Under 35 single men. This isn't a compassion situation at all. Its economic migration , hiding behind asylum.

I'm glad you finally accept it is now a major issue. You didn't want to for a long time. It is now the number 1 concern in the UK.
Every life lost to one of these illegals, is blood on the hands of politicians failing to do their jobs.
Why is it bigoted to want secure borders? It is horse **** like that, that has allowed this problem to explode.
You want international cooperation, better start with your EU mates.
Your country list is misleading. Iran/ Turkey/Pakistan/Uganda are the neighbouring countries of the trouble zones. Germany is only on that list, because of Merkels madness. Something the Germans now acknowledge and has see a massive swing to the right in its politics because of it.
Austria have now joined Germany in deporting back to Afghanistan, defying all the moaning from the ECHR.

If paying £6 for entry into Europe is all you can moan about, then god help you. I'd sooner know who is in and out and the country better protected. You're a well travelled man, I'm sure you have been to countries that take their border checks very seriously.

Change the record, Tricky.

1. A principle Brexit aim was to pacify those like you and tighten our borders. It self evidently hasn’t worked or, almost five years on, you wouldn’t still be moaning about it. That is another Brexit failure.

2. I’ve always accepted it’s an issue…just recognised that it’s not the number one issue and looked for a more compassionate solution.

3. It isn’t bigoted to want secure borders…it is bigoted (and much more besides) to take part in or advocate activities that place the lives of those you randomly decide you don’t want here in jeopardy.

4. Migration isn’t the ‘number 1 concern in the UK’ and you repeatedly claiming that it is time and time again won’t make it true. How do you explain Labour winning the huge majority they did less than two months ago had immigration been the number one issue?

5. I’m all in favour of appropriate border checks…I’m not in favour of UK citizens suddenly being treated like some sort of pariah at border controls throughout Europe or having to pay for a ‘visa’ to enter a continent I’ve grown up considering us all to be a valued part of.

[swaledale]

It's in loads of places if you look for it.
You and the rear gunner never believe anything, unless the BBC and the Guardian say so. As a pair, they would sooner say nothing, than try to explain it. Thats a narrative you love.

Prime Minister Keir Starmer‘s administration has seen 6,858 migrant arrivals since taking office, increasing pressure on the government to find effective solutions. In response, the government scrapped the previous Rwanda deportation scheme and proposed a new Border Security Command aimed at improving border security and reducing dangerous crossings.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...er/ar-AA1pEj2B


Considering most of them toss their ID away.
This is a pinch of salt
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53699511

The Centre for Migration Control put the cost to taxpayers of record levels of migrant worklessness at as much as £8.5 billion a year.

Robert Bates, research director at the Centre for Migration Control, said last night: “For all the talk of a fiscal 'black hole', the Labour Government seem to be missing the glaringly obvious fact that mass migration is causing economic pandemonium.

Ah yes GBeebies, that station well known for fact checking, unbiased and real news!. In fact such a reputable station that when challenged on its false news and undoubted biased reporting, claims its and entertainment not a news channel.

Not actually true that I rely on the BBC or the Guardian for news, I do my research and cross check across a number of sources, obviously I discount those that are right wing think tanks and media designed to fool idiots like yourself and whip you up into frothing at the mouth over what is far from a crisis, more failure of the previous government to manage the issue responsibly.

But hey knock yourself out, your posts just reveal a lack of critical thinking and a willingness to swallow the crap fed to you by the stooges of elite billionaires. Mmm now exactly in whose interests do you think they are looking after? Not yours that's for sure!