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    Quote Originally Posted by 57vintage View Post
    Ms Begg was never my MP, (it was Malcom Savidge with whom I had a public spat at a hustings meeting when he denied that Prescott had ever undertaken to re-nationalise the railways) although she did visit my workplace once as she was formerly a teacher in the building which had been re-purposed. She came across as Blairite lobby fodder.

    The question that remains unanswered, and by fùck, I’ve posed it often enough, is, “If a UK PM were to say tomorrow, “OK. Have independence - which of the SNP stalwarts would you send in to negotiate it?”

    Angus Robertson and his self-declared towering intellect? Energy Minister Gillian Martin, currently back-pedalling although she’s forgotten her bike, as the environment we’re doing our bit to save is thoroughly wrecked by the proliferation of grid improvement gubbins from 200m+ pylons, intrusive and combustion-prone BESS paraphernalia which rather than being utilised to ‘store surplus energy to feed into the grid’ will only be deployed thus when the unit price is sufficient for the capitalist savages to add to their profits etc. The ex-social worker Robison, whose brains are matched by her articulacy? Swinney himself who is desperate to get the fùck out of the sotter he’s inherited and helped create? Joanna Cher….oh hang on… Michael Matheson, on Zoom(er) via iPad from the beach? Graeme ‘Groundhog’ Dey, who has been invisible from his job in sorting out the FE lecturers’ long struggle for fair reward and who’ll retire before he’s found out further by 2026 and count his parachute payment? Flynn, whose sub-Salmond cock-of-the-midden act and façade of certainty will be as easily removed by hard-nosed opponents as his hair and the Jutes from the Premiership? John Mason’s probably got as much chance of success as any of the on-message, intellect-free cronies as any.

    Ever felt you’ve been cheated? “Gullible” doesn’t appear in any major dictionary, apparently.

    https://youtu.be/GfPo2V7GDTk?si=vgZtdjTmPSZDn0cX
    I wouldn't trust any one person with the negotiation process.

    You would need a Salmond type person as the figurehead of the negotiations with a very good team supporting him made up of non politicians.

    Remember too that Westminster hasn't exactly got much going for it either in the intellectual stakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57vintage View Post
    Ms Begg was never my MP, (it was Malcom Savidge with whom I had a public spat at a hustings meeting when he denied that Prescott had ever undertaken to re-nationalise the railways) although she did visit my workplace once as she was formerly a teacher in the building which had been re-purposed. She came across as Blairite lobby fodder.

    The question that remains unanswered, and by fùck, I’ve posed it often enough, is, “If a UK PM were to say tomorrow, “OK. Have independence - which of the SNP stalwarts would you send in to negotiate it?”

    Angus Robertson and his self-declared towering intellect? Energy Minister Gillian Martin, currently back-pedalling although she’s forgotten her bike, as the environment we’re doing our bit to save is thoroughly wrecked by the proliferation of grid improvement gubbins from 200m+ pylons, intrusive and combustion-prone BESS paraphernalia which rather than being utilised to ‘store surplus energy to feed into the grid’ will only be deployed thus when the unit price is sufficient for the capitalist savages to add to their profits etc. The ex-social worker Robison, whose brains are matched by her articulacy? Swinney himself who is desperate to get the fùck out of the sotter he’s inherited and helped create? Joanna Cher….oh hang on… Michael Matheson, on Zoom(er) via iPad from the beach? Graeme ‘Groundhog’ Dey, who has been invisible from his job in sorting out the FE lecturers’ long struggle for fair reward and who’ll retire before he’s found out further by 2026 and count his parachute payment? Flynn, whose sub-Salmond cock-of-the-midden act and façade of certainty will be as easily removed by hard-nosed opponents as his hair and the Jutes from the Premiership? John Mason’s probably got as much chance of success as any of the on-message, intellect-free cronies as any.

    Ever felt you’ve been cheated? “Gullible” doesn’t appear in any major dictionary, apparently.

    https://youtu.be/GfPo2V7GDTk?si=vgZtdjTmPSZDn0cX
    I’ll do it if they ask nicely. There are some non negotiables though

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeeDon View Post
    No, do tell how that come about.

    Assuming it was before they went big
    ‘‘Twas a balmy summers eve, 1994 & we got dropped off by my mates mum (no pic handy) too early for the gig. Nothing else to do so just got a bumper carry out & sat at the door. They came out & had a blether for an hour, where we chatted mainly about Man City’s fortunes (they were a real football club back then) & how Verve were the second best band in England, which was wrong on a number of levels.

    When they had to leave to get set up, Noel picked up the carry out and walked off. Obviously not at the stage where they had a rider

    During the gig, I was down the front & gave Liam my Nicky Summerbee city top (you’ll remember his dad) to put on the stage. He said ‘this ones for you our kid’ and then played Supersonic

    After the gig, we were invited back to the hotel for a party but we couldn’t be @rsed. Moments later, I saw a chap called Martin, who ran the Airdrie Section B & easily the maddest b’stard I ever met, hold Liam in a headlock & force feed him eccies

    You’re not getting that for £150 a ticket at Murrayfield

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mason89 View Post
    ‘‘Twas a balmy summers eve, 1994 & we got dropped off by my mates mum (no pic handy) too early for the gig. Nothing else to do so just got a bumper carry out & sat at the door. They came out & had a blether for an hour, where we chatted mainly about Man City’s fortunes (they were a real football club back then) & how Verve were the second best band in England, which was wrong on a number of levels.

    When they had to leave to get set up, Noel picked up the carry out and walked off. Obviously not at the stage where they had a rider

    During the gig, I was down the front & gave Liam my Nicky Summerbee city top (you’ll remember his dad) to put on the stage. He said ‘this ones for you our kid’ and then played Supersonic

    After the gig, we were invited back to the hotel for a party but we couldn’t be @rsed. Moments later, I saw a chap called Martin, who ran the Airdrie Section B & easily the maddest b’stard I ever met, hold Liam in a headlock & force feed him eccies

    You’re not getting that for £150 a ticket at Murrayfield
    Brilliant min.
    Something for the autobiography.

    I've heard of Mike Summerbee, but Nicky was my era.

    The loon got tickets yesterday for Murrayfield. He's away to uni at Edinburgh in a fortnight, and has a flat not too far from Murrayfield, so is chuffed.

    I doubt he will have a story like yours to tell in thirty years, but sure he and his mates will enjoy it all the same.

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    'Dynamic Pricing'

    Used by Oasis for selling their tickets (assuming other acts use it too?), which sees price rise with demand.

    A £150 ticket (bad enough) became £335 a ticket (plus fees) through this mechanism.

    First time I had heard of it, but the bands I see wouldn't be subject to this kind of p*sh.

    Capitalism at its absolute worst.

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    I called it years and years ago. They were always going to get back together for the big reunion. The falling out was just a huge PR gimmick to guarantee enough hype after the announcement to allow **** like dynamic pricing. The divorce that needs paid for has just accelerated the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeeDon View Post
    'Dynamic Pricing'

    Used by Oasis for selling their tickets (assuming other acts use it too?), which sees price rise with demand.

    A £150 ticket (bad enough) became £335 a ticket (plus fees) through this mechanism.

    First time I had heard of it, but the bands I see wouldn't be subject to this kind of p*sh.

    Capitalism at its absolute worst.
    “Let the market decide”.

    Some extremely high-profile “people’s artists” have embraced it too.

    Top-quality gigs at the Lampie for £12/£10 in advance. www.almostbluepromotions.com

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    Oasis are just a pub band who got lucky. I don't know why anybody would want to see them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeeDon View Post
    'Dynamic Pricing'

    Used by Oasis for selling their tickets (assuming other acts use it too?), which sees price rise with demand.

    A £150 ticket (bad enough) became £335 a ticket (plus fees) through this mechanism.

    First time I had heard of it, but the bands I see wouldn't be subject to this kind of p*sh.

    Capitalism at its absolute worst.
    Springs**** fans are familiar with this concept, it first reared its head (to my knowledge) when tickets were sold for the 23 tour.
    The bad thing about it, and I confess this has soured my relationship with Freehold's favourite son, was that his manager Landau took to the media and tried to defend it.
    Tone deaf would be the mother of all understatements.

    As stated, the unacceptable face of the most unacceptable of socio-economic models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InversneckieDob View Post
    Springs**** fans are familiar with this concept, it first reared its head (to my knowledge) when tickets were sold for the 23 tour.
    The bad thing about it, and I confess this has soured my relationship with Freehold's favourite son, was that his manager Landau took to the media and tried to defend it.
    Tone deaf would be the mother of all understatements.

    As stated, the unacceptable face of the most unacceptable of socio-economic models.
    I was reading up on it last night. Springs**** is alright with it, as long as the money goes to the artist and not the promoter. That I was surprised at. Coming from a guy that handed over money to the striking Miners back in 84.

    Commie b@stards Ed Sheeran and Taylor Swift are not ok with it and haven't signed up for it.

    Crowded House made their promoter pay back the delta on the ticket prices to fans when they discovered they had been signed up to it without their knowledge and Robert Smith of the Cure, just thinks it's a load of *******s and another way in screwing over fans.

    I love the argument that if you are not happy with the prices then you are not forced to buy tickets.

    Whilst I get the theory in saying that, it's really not the point.

    The fact that the Oasis tickets sold out, as did the Springst*en tickets in 23, shows that fools and their money are easily parted.

    They should follow the example of Paul Heaton

    https://paulheaton.co.uk/

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